Weeks ago we came together with the objective to organise funds for the development of Nu and specifically for the work sigmike was doing for the multicurrency proposal in the short term. Nothing more, nothing less. Is that so extraordinary? Apparently there were no other interested shareholders left to do this. I'm good to hear otherwise.
Not sure what you are talking about. I've never sent funds to 'him', i was not part of FLOT as you know. And I'm not trying to get anything back either with this proposal. It is just a fund for Nu development. Something we should have had in the first place.
I believe this accusation is not justified. The definition of a scammer has been discussed a few times on this board.
In November 2014 this was already posted: https://discuss.nubits.com/t/everyones-a-scammer/746
Investing in altcoins is also know as speculative philanthropy.
We can argue for months about this. My take on it is that Nu is still functioning, although barely. I don't like how Phoenix acts and I have been vocal about that a number of times. It doesn't work with attracting new customers at all. But until there is something better there is not much choice than making the best from my remaining investment and some hopefully justified belief that it can get better. As long as Augeas hasn't developed a clear direction on what it is and wants I'm on the fence and fine to try new things until something better emerges.
Just joining a multisig fund for development to create new chances for Nu is one of them and I work with anyone who thinks among similar lines and has more than zero shares. When I believe we are starting to make the same mistakes there is a clear opt-out in the proposal which I won't hesitate to use. I'm in on my own terms, not just walking away from everything because that is a 'common' belief by a group of people.
I'm disappointed that you see every move as negative without further thinking of what this might achieve even though the chances might look slim at the moment. Not trying is a certain fail.
Well, I doubt, but if he likes critical thinking and being challenged then maybe I am.
Neck deep? With 10k? Less than 1% of the total shares? Really? Same investment as Sentinelrv and heavily diluted so phoenix has control of the majority of the shares. Although I'm close I haven't walked away just yet, that is the difference. I'm prepared to try something else until something better presents itself as I can't think of anything just yet.
And why wouldn't I be one of them?
Maybe we can set up a wider team, I don't have any objections on that. There will need to be some consensus and alignment. Therefore larger shareholders would take a preference to make it work. I would welcome those. Otherwise it would just be non-functional and drown in endless discussions.
The grant part can be deemed obsolete, it shouldn't have been in there. An oversight. Not sure if it is worth changing if it just for that. In my opinion this fund is to manage developments agreed by shareholders. After a development focussed motion has passed to pay someone for services based on terms or regular e.g. monthly payments the multisig team would take care of that. In other words this multisig team would just take care of the payments according to the agreed terms instead of raising 3 grants as sigmike just had to do. That is my interpretation at least.
That would be ideal, but I can imagine that @cryptog and others would be hesitating to lend their business on where Nu is at today. I believe there is long way to go before some trust can be established. We are at the bottom and maybe there is no way out. Time will tell within the next few months and it mostly depends on your actions @phoenix. When things get better I'm sure we can liaise with a business eventually or set something up specifically for Nu development purposes.