[Passed] LiquidBits term 2 - Trust Less Liquidity Pool (TLLP)

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LiquidBits TLLP custodial grant request

Custodial Address: BCayGPSiGtruHuCjGBaM6GP4FhBAHXWFWq
Amount Requested: 245 NBT

Custodial grant request to continue to operate LiquidBits.net, a liquidity pool for NuBits.

@cybnate continues the independent trust less liquidity pool (TLLP) to provide liquidity on the EUR/NBT, USD/NBT and BTC/NBT markets. A target of 7,500 NBT on the bid and ask side of the order books will be provided by the pool split over 3 currency pairs, resulting in a total maximum liquidity of 15,000 NBT. The operation will end after thirty (30) days when a motion or grant to continue operations haven’t passed before.

Liquidity provided by users will be compensated as follows:

with up to **7.5% per month** (0.25% per day) on CCEDK’s **EUR/NBT** pair on both sell and buy side to a maximum of 2,500 NBT ( max pay-out 187.50 NBT/30 days)

with up to **7.5% per month** (0.25% per day) on CCEDK’s **USD/NBT** pair on both sell and buy side to a maximum of 7,500 NBT (max pay-out 562.50 NBT/30 days)

with on average **10% per month** (0.33% per day) per month on Bitcoin.co.id **BTC/NBT** pair to a maximum of 5000 NBT in total but split as follows:

    0.38% per day up to 2500 NBT on sell side ( max pay-out 285 NBT/30 days)

    0.28% per day up to 2500 NBT on buy side ( max pay-out 210 NBT/30 days)

using the pool’s calculations based on the Dutch auction model to allow a fair distribution of returns amongst liquidity providers. 1245 NBT of the requested amount in this grant will be held as reserve to make pay-outs to connected users.

The current grant has 1245 NBT left as of 29 June with about 9 days to go at a current payout rate of just under 10 NBT on average. Allowing for a minor increase there will be approx. 1100 NBT left.
Total required 1245 - 1100 = 145 NBT.

Terms and conditions
Pay-outs take place every 24 hours. The minimum pay-out is 1 NBT. The spread continues to be 2% on either side with 0.075 tolerance on both exchanges. Operations and pay-outs will start within 3 days after the custodial grant has passed successfully. The pool will continue to operate under the name LiquidBits.net. Remaining funds will be settled with future grants or when the pool is discontinued, burned.

Fee
The pool fee is a one-off 100 NBT and serves as a contribution for the effort of supporting the pool, the website, reporting, supporting the users and the monthly costs of operating the server.

Instructions
Instructions on how to participate in the pool can be found here: http://cybnate.github.io/index-liquidbits.html

Work is underway to improve the website.

Disclaimer and risks
The provisioning of the pool is based on best efforts. No claims can be made by users when the pool server or client software is not available or not working properly.

Liquidity providers remain in full control of their funds throughout the operation of the pool. The pool operator won’t have access to any of the funds hence the reference to trust less liquidity pool. Therefore liquidity providers bear the full risk having their funds on the exchange and won’t be compensated by this pool on an exchange default or inability to withdraw their funds.

Liquidity providers are exposed to the risks of speculators hedging against them on other pairs than USD/NBT like EUR/NBT with the BTC/NBT pair a particular high risk due to its high volatility.

Finally, please be reminded of the following:

Don’t risk more than you can afford to lose!

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Hash: 3A7FC195FEF867DE19D3AD0D4D3789BABE7BB600

The bot is not playing nice providing a hash to my grant and displaying the text as intended. Can someone please confirm the hash I created without using the bot.
You could use this link: http://hash.online-convert.com/ripemd160-generator

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Nice proposal but I cannot confirm the hash.

Ok, I’m stuck creating a verifiable grant in that case since assistant removes part of the grant text @woolly_sammoth

Anyone able to help with this and create a verifiable hash without assistant? Should I delete all formatting?

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LiquidBits TLLP custodial grant request

Custodial Address: BCayGPSiGtruHuCjGBaM6GP4FhBAHXWFWq
Amount Requested: 245 NBT

Custodial grant request to continue to operate LiquidBits.net, a liquidity pool for NuBits.

@cybnate
continues the independent trust less liquidity pool (TLLP) to provide
liquidity on the EUR/NBT, USD/NBT and BTC/NBT markets. A target of 7,500
NBT on the bid and ask side of the order books will be provided by the
pool split over 3 currency pairs, resulting in a total maximum liquidity
of 15,000 NBT. The operation will end after thirty (30) days when a
motion or grant to continue operations haven’t passed before.

Liquidity provided by users will be compensated as follows:

with up to 7.5% per month (0.25% per day) on CCEDK’s EUR/NBT pair on both sell and buy side to a maximum of 2,500 NBT ( max pay-out 187.50 NBT/30 days)

with up to 7.5% per month (0.25% per day) on CCEDK’s USD/NBT pair on both sell and buy side to a maximum of 7,500 NBT (max pay-out 562.50 NBT/30 days)

with on average 10% per month** (0.33% per day) per month on Bitcoin.co.id BTC/NBT pair to a maximum of 5000 NBT in total but split as follows:

0.38% per day up to 2500 NBT on sell side ( max pay-out 285 NBT/30 days)

0.28% per day up to 2500 NBT on buy side ( max pay-out 210 NBT/30 days)

using the pool’s calculations based on the Dutch auction model to
allow a fair distribution of returns amongst liquidity providers. 1245
NBT of the requested amount in this grant will be held as reserve to
make pay-outs to connected users.

The current grant has 1245 NBT left as of 29 June with about 9 days
to go at a current payout rate of just under 10 NBT on average. Allowing
for a minor increase there will be approx. 1100 NBT left.
Total required 1245 - 1100 = 145 NBT.

Terms and conditions
Pay-outs take place every 24
hours. The minimum pay-out is 1 NBT. The spread continues to be 2% on
either side with 0.075 tolerance on both exchanges. Operations and
pay-outs will start within 3 days after the custodial grant has passed
successfully. The pool will continue to operate under the name
LiquidBits.net. Remaining funds will be settled with future grants or
when the pool is discontinued, burned.

Fee
The pool fee is a one-off 100 NBT and serves
as a contribution for the effort of supporting the pool, the website,
reporting, supporting the users and the monthly costs of operating the
server.

Disclaimer and risks
The provisioning of the pool
is based on best efforts. No claims can be made by users when the pool
server or client software is not available or not working properly.

Liquidity providers remain in full control of their funds throughout
the operation of the pool. The pool operator won’t have access to any of
the funds hence the reference to trust less liquidity pool. Therefore
liquidity providers bear the full risk having their funds on the
exchange and won’t be compensated by this pool on an exchange default or
inability to withdraw their funds.

Liquidity providers are exposed to the risks of speculators hedging
against them on other pairs than USD/NBT like EUR/NBT with the BTC/NBT
pair a particular high risk due to its high volatility.

Finally, please be reminded of the following:

Don’t risk more than you can afford to lose!

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Ok, I removed all formatting and the link to the instructions. It is plain text now.
The hash I’ve got is: 5F55FDEFC9520876F71E7533DA2BCAED72181F85

Hope it can be confirmed so we can start voting as I’m running out of time.

motion hash [txt] works here.
you need to send a private message to assistant.

I got Motion RIPEMD160 hash: 27039dbfc09629c144e822887ef1dcffcba79c47 by the way with the body of your motion.

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Custodial Address: BCayGPSiGtruHuCjGBaM6GP4FhBAHXWFWq
Amount Requested: 245 NBT

LiquidBits TLLP custodial grant request

Custodial grant request to continue to operate LiquidBits.net, a liquidity pool for NuBits.

@cybnatecontinues the independent trust less liquidity pool (TLLP) to provide liquidity on the EUR/NBT, USD/NBT and BTC/NBT markets. A target of 7,500 NBT on the bid and ask side of the order books will be provided by the pool split over 3 currency pairs, resulting in a total maximum liquidity of 15,000 NBT. The operation will end after thirty (30) days when a motion or grant to continue operations haven’t passed before.

Liquidity provided by users will be compensated as follows:

with up to 7.5% per month (0.25% per day) on CCEDK’s EUR/NBT pair on both sell and buy side to a maximum of 2,500 NBT ( max pay-out 187.50 NBT/30 days)

with up to 7.5% per month (0.25% per day) on CCEDK’s USD/NBT pair on both sell and buy side to a maximum of 7,500 NBT (max pay-out 562.50 NBT/30 days)

with on average 10% per month** (0.33% per day) per month on Bitcoin.co.id BTC/NBT pair to a maximum of 5000 NBT in total but split as follows:

0.38% per day up to 2500 NBT on sell side ( max pay-out 285 NBT/30 days)

0.28% per day up to 2500 NBT on buy side ( max pay-out 210 NBT/30 days)

using the pool’s calculations based on the Dutch auction model toallow a fair distribution of returns amongst liquidity providers. 1245 NBT of the requested amount in this grant will be held as reserve to make pay-outs to connected users.

The current grant has 1245 NBT left as of 29 June with about 9 days to go at a current payout rate of just under 10 NBT on average. Allowing for a minor increase there will be approx. 1100 NBT left. Total required 1245 - 1100 = 145 NBT.

Terms and conditionsPay-outs take place every 24 hours. The minimum pay-out is 1 NBT. The spread continues to be 2% on either side with 0.075 tolerance on both exchanges. Operations and pay-outs will start within 3 days after the custodial grant has passed successfully. The pool will continue to operate under the name LiquidBits.net. Remaining funds will be settled with future grants or when the pool is discontinued, burned.

FeeThe pool fee is a one-off 100 NBT and serves as a contribution for the effort of supporting the pool, the website,reporting, supporting the users and the monthly costs of operating the server.

Disclaimer and risksThe provisioning of the pool is based on best efforts. No claims can be made by users when the pool server or client software is not available or not working properly.

Liquidity providers remain in full control of their funds throughout the operation of the pool. The pool operator won’t have access to any of the funds hence the reference to trust less liquidity pool. Therefore liquidity providers bear the full risk having their funds on the exchange and won’t be compensated by this pool on an exchange default or inability to withdraw their funds.

Liquidity providers are exposed to the risks of speculators hedging against them on other pairs than USD/NBT like EUR/NBT with the BTC/NBT pair a particular high risk due to its high volatility.

Finally, please be reminded of the following:

Don’t risk more than you can afford to lose!

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Verify. Use everything between and including the <custodianhash></custodianhash> tags.

Proposal RIPEMD160 hash: f236a9af30ef943e7bf4cfb75f849ed48d153343
Please use this only to verify the custodial grant text, enter the address and amount on top of this post into your client


Finally this seems to work. Before it just removed the first paragraph of my text. Anyway, hope that people are still interested. Please start voting when you want LiquidBits to continue!

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f236a9af30ef943e7bf4cfb75f849ed48d153343 verified and voted.

This grant has passed. Thanks for your vote. Will adjust the rates accordingly in the next 48h.

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Server restarted, will do manual payout for the outstanding fees of today.

The rates have been adjusted to the new grant. With that the new grant will start today. The reporting on the previous period will follow shortly.

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LiquidBits reporting 12-Jul-2015

Reporting to date:
Total grant 1 (-/- fee): 1,500 NBT
Total grant 2 (-/- fee): 145 NBT

Grant 1
Payouts up to 5 June: 144 NBT (including manual payouts)

Grant 1 extended
Payouts between 5 June and up to 5 July: 172 NBT

Grant gap
Payouts between 6 July and up to 11 July: 63 NBT

The detailed provided liquidity for each grant by day is reported at the bottom of this post

Remaining in wallet: 1,367.43 NBT (as of 12-Jul-2015 9:45 UTC)

-/- fee 37 NBT *1

Delivery notes

  • The pool has remained fairly stable in the last 30 days except for a glitch with the Nu daemon which is hopefully fixed with version 1.2.
  • The bots requires resets when lots of trades takes place. This is a known error. @woolysammoth is still working on a solution
  • Testing on the CCEDK NBT/BTC pair will start soon in preparation to add this pair.
  • The amount of grant 2 has been transferred into the old custodial address: BMuti7RC4P6htnka8FuBXSoppngYXBdVbL
  • The liquidity operation has grown over 80% on average. However the potential is still underutilised. This maybe because of the relative complexity and the requirement to have a client running 24/7. I’m still confident that further growth is within reach. The intended integration with NuBot might help with this, also a revamp of the LiquidBits website is under way to make providing liquidity more accessible.

*1 Given the gap between the two grants, I will reduce my fee with 63 NBT to cover for the fees in the last 6 days. Remaining fee = 37 NBT. The new grant will therefore start today 12 July (6:30 UTC).
The partial payout for today (12 July UTC) is manual as the system needs to be restarted.

Going forward
The second grant has been received and starts today and will run until 11 August (30 days)

Overview liquidity pairs and payouts

EUR/NBT and USD/NBT pairs on CCEDK
The safest deal as no or almost no hedging risks, only exchange default risk here.
Please take note of CCEDK’s offer advertised here: CCEDK signs bank agreement - Zero deposit fees on USD, EUR and CNY next two months. No deposit fees on USD, EUR and CNY for the next two months June and July. Interest rate on both NBT/USD and NBT/CNY pairs has been lowered to 0.25%/day on both buy and sell side.

BTC/NBT pair on Bitcoin.co.id
Proven exchange with good track record, but you will have the hedging risk with BTC, therefore a higher compensation is warranted on the BTC sell side.
Also places left here on both sell and buy side. This exchange is our third largest on average with regular, albeit with relatively small trades.
Interest rate is 0.38% on sell side and 0.28% on buy side. More risk, but great interest rates.

The instructions to get started are still available here: http://cybnate.github.io/index-liquidbits.html

Please remember:
Don’t risk more than you can afford to lose!

Detailed reports

Period 1a
Date Buy Sell
19/05/2015 Average 1.569774935 1176.682908
20/05/2015 Average 0 1194.7256
21/05/2015 Average 0 880.654336
22/05/2015 Average 2.257234151 2843.971076
23/05/2015 Average 28.05928668 2334.604321
24/05/2015 Average 60.71785354 2424.062938
25/05/2015 Average 44.13270417 2605.277237
26/05/2015 Average 12.58655438 2678.987538
27/05/2015 Average 27.13793352 2664.468943
28/05/2015 Average 338.5365633 2336.052065
29/05/2015 Average 473.3448066 2103.706379
30/05/2015 Average 506.9711024 1135.858685
31/05/2015 Average 517.6625768 1208.942379
1/06/2015 No data
2/06/2015 Average 634.3186706 637.9738955
3/06/2015 Average 609.580009 637.9367699
4/06/2015 Average 650.4063924 626.9187951
5/06/2015 Average 564.8471139 590.8461805
Grand Average 251.7485524 1672.862675

Period 1b (extension)
Date Buy Sell Payout
6/06/2015 Average 501.0948126 739.0585928 2.8192
7/06/2015 Average 510.7935581 736.1925378 4.566
8/06/2015 Average 501.2043902 665.7148729 2.9256
9/06/2015 Average 489.8241255 672.8265283 4.2215
10/06/2015 Average 495.6535389 709.2447594 3.9667
11/06/2015 Average 812.6090934 333.0176808 4.2890
12/06/2015 Average 788.6388208 243.5930678 2.9455
13/06/2015 Average 518.4883443 442.3024358 3.3184
14/06/2015 Average 887.7840934 345.9628746 3.0518
15/06/2015 Average 1062.822235 335.5704941 4.5682
16/06/2015 Average 1078.471581 236.4913682 4.3716
17/06/2015 Average 1166.328039 126.6413573 4.3902
18/06/2015 Average 1004.455257 180.9533426 3.9283
19/06/2015 Average 1043.364239 130.455001 3.9625
20/06/2015 Average 1044.878232 312.2478253 3.9508
21/06/2015 Average 776.8438177 543.853184 4.4223
22/06/2015 Average 596.8167308 777.7867231 4.1572
23/06/2015 Average 659.5782722 1417.505396 3.8139
24/06/2015 Average 759.6011555 1974.597594 6.3081
25/06/2015 Average 1028.844863 1887.32784 11.1868
26/06/2015 Average 736.6515641 2323.294784 8.6621
27/06/2015 Average 602.8125159 2034.721536 8.7055
28/06/2015 Average 795.4423347 1958.223873 8.2843
29/06/2015 Average 1047.173322 1991.752372 9.3046
30/06/2015 Average 805.387426 1941.947946 9.7439
1/07/2015 Average 724.2361651 1804.26722 7.8112
2/07/2015 Average 523.8937304 1672.214439 5.9031
3/07/2015 Average 698.0053676 1685.947988 7.8733
4/07/2015 Average 907.4834621 1866.998385 9.3106
5/07/2015 Average 1024.531364 1685.418186 9.9427
Grand average 786.45 1059.20

Period 1c gap (to date)
Date Buy Sell Payout
6/07/2015 Average 854.7339938 1971.702209 8.956
7/07/2015 Average 948.5367266 2157.045195 9.1488
8/07/2015 Average 965.0532693 2191.769054 10.1375
9/07/2015 Average 1082.420501 1966.716373 9.8496
10/07/2015 Average 1130.149534 2029.999973 11.1863
11/07/2015 Average 989.3716689 2105.010334 9.8696
Manual payout 12-Jul-15 = 3.73

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Notification to LiquidBits users:

Unfortunately LiquidBits have been off-line for a couple of hours. The payout did take place though. The problem has been fixed and my apology for this.
The root cause is not entirely clear yet, but it points to lack of memory caused by leakage of the Nu daemon. This is the second time I have seen it going up from around 55% (of 1Gb) to over 75%. The only fix might be to upgrade to a server with more memory. Will review the situation in the next few weeks.

Edit the server.py (the core software) also seems to go up from 2% to 10% over time.

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Notification for LiquidBits users on CCEDK:

There has been a performance degradation on the NBT/EUR and NBT/USD pairs on CCEDK of up to 20% since 2-3 days. We are currently investigating what the issues are and working with CCEDK developer(s). The performance degradation results in lower payouts (up to 20% less) on those pairs as the bot cannot confirm the liquidity at all times due to this issue.

The NBT/BTC pair on Bitcoin.co.id is not affected.

Will let you know when it is fixed or more information becomes available.

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