[Mandatory Upgrade] All minters need to upgrade to B&C Exchange 4.0.1

This is the first time developers stop MacOS supporting and parallel price is 50$?Virtualbox is free buy Windows is even expensive, and prone to virus.

Linux is good, but since we can port “agp-get” well, why run virtualmachine? VM drives PC hotter, and lost quite some performance.

Fink, Macport, and Homebrew, these three can let Mac users hug open source unix software.

There are solutions to run recent BCE on MacOS so I’ll stop repeating them.
I won’t tell anybody to buy Parallels as long as VirtualBox does the same job. But I have a hard time to understand why somebody invests money into BKS, but can’t invest money into required software.
Don’t tell me that MacOS users are that price conscious.
There are solutions. We should stop focussing on symptoms of a problem that is none.

Seriously, setting up virtualbox with lubuntu is a non issue. Keeping it running 24/7 might be a stretch but thats entirely up to you.

If you want me to set up an image and put it online for you to download, just ask…

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What about an email subscription on the download page of the bce website dedicated to notifications through email?

Why is backpackers Mac OS build not on the download page? Do we have a vetting period before public, off forum, announcement are published?

Jordan Lee’s explanation:

Backpacker’s response and proposal:

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Thanks for the great response. I like what Jordan said.

Do our trusted people know enough to look into the program to see if anything looks off? We should have someone else (as a process) validate the program before release, trusted or not. Redundancy in security is probably a good thing.

Reduced to the last few days.
Full log from this month can be found here: https://gist.github.com/Lamz0rNewb/6b04881a2f66c5b2bb03d0733746c321

2016-05-10

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    "difficulty" : 0.00040167,
        "block_percentage" : 68.95,
Wed May 11 14:00:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 442754,
    "difficulty" : 0.0004012,
        "block_percentage" : 68.9,
Wed May 11 14:15:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 442767,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040114,
        "block_percentage" : 68.75,
Wed May 11 14:30:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 442783,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040127,
        "block_percentage" : 68.9,
Wed May 11 14:45:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 442803,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040152,
        "block_percentage" : 68.85,
Wed May 11 15:00:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 442821,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040184,
        "block_percentage" : 69.25,
Wed May 11 15:15:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 442844,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040247,
        "block_percentage" : 69.4,
Wed May 11 15:30:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 442860,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040265,
        "block_percentage" : 69.35,
Wed May 11 15:45:02 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 442875,
    "difficulty" : 0.0004026,
        "block_percentage" : 69.4,
Wed May 11 16:00:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 442888,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040246,
        "block_percentage" : 69.6,
Wed May 11 16:15:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 442905,
    "difficulty" : 0.0004025,
        "block_percentage" : 69.4,
Wed May 11 16:30:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 442922,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040283,
        "block_percentage" : 69.35,
Wed May 11 16:45:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 442936,
    "difficulty" : 0.0004027,
        "block_percentage" : 69.4,
Wed May 11 17:00:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 442952,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040298,
        "block_percentage" : 69.65,
Wed May 11 17:15:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 442965,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040263,
        "block_percentage" : 69.45,
Wed May 11 17:30:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 442980,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040283,
        "block_percentage" : 69.5,
Wed May 11 17:45:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 442999,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040293,
        "block_percentage" : 69.35,
Wed May 11 18:00:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443012,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040301,
        "block_percentage" : 69.5,
Wed May 11 18:15:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443029,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040302,
        "block_percentage" : 69.3,
Wed May 11 18:30:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443047,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040326,
        "block_percentage" : 69.25,
Wed May 11 18:45:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443060,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040302,
        "block_percentage" : 69.1,
Wed May 11 19:00:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443076,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040314,
        "block_percentage" : 69.0,
Wed May 11 19:15:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443088,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040314,
        "block_percentage" : 69.05,
Wed May 11 19:30:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443108,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040336,
        "block_percentage" : 68.9,
Wed May 11 19:45:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443124,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040348,
        "block_percentage" : 68.9,
Wed May 11 20:00:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443140,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040359,
        "block_percentage" : 68.95,
Wed May 11 20:15:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443160,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040394,
        "block_percentage" : 68.9,
Wed May 11 20:30:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443180,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040436,
        "block_percentage" : 68.8,
Wed May 11 20:45:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443196,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040436,
        "block_percentage" : 68.75,
Wed May 11 21:00:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443210,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040429,
        "block_percentage" : 68.8,
Wed May 11 21:15:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443226,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040456,
        "block_percentage" : 68.75,
Wed May 11 21:30:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443241,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040441,
        "block_percentage" : 68.85,
Wed May 11 21:45:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443250,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040389,
        "block_percentage" : 68.9,
Wed May 11 22:00:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443265,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040398,
        "block_percentage" : 68.65,
Wed May 11 22:15:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443281,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040406,
        "block_percentage" : 68.65,
Wed May 11 22:30:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443294,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040392,
        "block_percentage" : 68.75,
Wed May 11 22:45:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443308,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040396,
        "block_percentage" : 68.65,
Wed May 11 23:00:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443320,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040369,
        "block_percentage" : 68.55,
Wed May 11 23:15:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443330,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040314,
        "block_percentage" : 68.65,
Wed May 11 23:30:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443345,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040342,
        "block_percentage" : 68.45,
Wed May 11 23:45:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443356,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040282,
        "block_percentage" : 68.6,

2016-05-12 until 13:15 UTC

Thu May 12 00:00:02 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443370,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040273,
        "block_percentage" : 68.85,
Thu May 12 00:15:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443384,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040272,
        "block_percentage" : 68.55,
Thu May 12 00:30:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443398,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040255,
        "block_percentage" : 68.4,
Thu May 12 00:45:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443415,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040275,
        "block_percentage" : 68.35,
Thu May 12 01:00:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443431,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040279,
        "block_percentage" : 68.35,
Thu May 12 01:15:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443453,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040346,
        "block_percentage" : 68.1,
Thu May 12 01:30:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443469,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040376,
        "block_percentage" : 67.9,
Thu May 12 01:45:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443485,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040352,
        "block_percentage" : 67.95,
Thu May 12 02:00:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443502,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040383,
        "block_percentage" : 68.05,
Thu May 12 02:15:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443523,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040422,
        "block_percentage" : 67.9,
Thu May 12 02:30:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443536,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040402,
        "block_percentage" : 67.9,
Thu May 12 02:45:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443548,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040398,
        "block_percentage" : 67.85,
Thu May 12 03:00:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443563,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040389,
        "block_percentage" : 67.75,
Thu May 12 03:15:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443576,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040371,
        "block_percentage" : 67.65,
Thu May 12 03:30:02 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443590,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040398,
        "block_percentage" : 67.4,
Thu May 12 03:45:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443590,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040398,
        "block_percentage" : 67.4,
Thu May 12 04:00:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443626,
    "difficulty" : 0.0004042,
        "block_percentage" : 67.65,
Thu May 12 04:15:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443638,
    "difficulty" : 0.000404,
        "block_percentage" : 67.55,
Thu May 12 04:30:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443650,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040354,
        "block_percentage" : 67.5,
Thu May 12 04:45:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443667,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040378,
        "block_percentage" : 67.45,
Thu May 12 05:00:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443682,
    "difficulty" : 0.0004038,
        "block_percentage" : 67.45,
Thu May 12 05:15:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443696,
    "difficulty" : 0.0004037,
        "block_percentage" : 67.45,
Thu May 12 05:30:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443707,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040337,
        "block_percentage" : 67.45,
Thu May 12 05:45:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443723,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040356,
        "block_percentage" : 67.45,
Thu May 12 06:00:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443734,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040328,
        "block_percentage" : 67.45,
Thu May 12 06:15:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443748,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040323,
        "block_percentage" : 67.25,
Thu May 12 06:30:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443767,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040343,
        "block_percentage" : 67.4,
Thu May 12 06:45:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443781,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040358,
        "block_percentage" : 67.3,
Thu May 12 07:00:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443800,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040364,
        "block_percentage" : 67.35,
Thu May 12 07:15:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443819,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040409,
        "block_percentage" : 67.25,
Thu May 12 07:30:02 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443830,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040378,
        "block_percentage" : 67.15,
Thu May 12 07:45:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443841,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040354,
        "block_percentage" : 67.1,
Thu May 12 08:00:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443858,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040366,
        "block_percentage" : 67.05,
Thu May 12 08:15:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443874,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040368,
        "block_percentage" : 66.9,
Thu May 12 08:30:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443893,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040391,
        "block_percentage" : 66.9,
Thu May 12 08:45:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443904,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040367,
        "block_percentage" : 66.9,
Thu May 12 09:00:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443916,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040341,
        "block_percentage" : 67.0,
Thu May 12 09:15:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443928,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040319,
        "block_percentage" : 66.8,
Thu May 12 09:30:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443938,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040329,
        "block_percentage" : 66.7,
Thu May 12 09:45:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443957,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040314,
        "block_percentage" : 66.7,
Thu May 12 10:00:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443973,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040311,
        "block_percentage" : 66.55,
Thu May 12 10:15:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443987,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040319,
        "block_percentage" : 66.5,
Thu May 12 10:30:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 443999,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040308,
        "block_percentage" : 66.25,
Thu May 12 10:45:02 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 444020,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040345,
        "block_percentage" : 66.4,
Thu May 12 11:00:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 444036,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040338,
        "block_percentage" : 66.45,
Thu May 12 11:15:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 444057,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040391,
        "block_percentage" : 66.45,
Thu May 12 11:30:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 444074,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040417,
        "block_percentage" : 66.35,
Thu May 12 11:45:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 444090,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040436,
        "block_percentage" : 66.1,
Thu May 12 12:00:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 444104,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040423,
        "block_percentage" : 66.1,
Thu May 12 12:15:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 444116,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040402,
        "block_percentage" : 66.05,
Thu May 12 12:30:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 444131,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040407,
        "block_percentage" : 65.95,
Thu May 12 12:45:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 444148,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040399,
        "block_percentage" : 65.75,
Thu May 12 13:00:01 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 444162,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040412,
        "block_percentage" : 65.55,
Thu May 12 13:15:02 UTC 2016
    "blocks" : 444178,
    "difficulty" : 0.00040414,
        "block_percentage" : 65.5,
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Ahead of the game, eh?

We’re pushin 70!

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Doh!
ninjaultrafastedit: fixed! :smiley:

We’ve been above 70, but it looks like it’s going down at the moment while the difficulty is rising.

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Are to me. An average is sufficient

grep ock_percenta | tr -d , | awk -F : ‘{n+=1; v+=$2}END{print v/n}’

Understood.
Here’s the link to the data: https://gist.github.com/Lamz0rNewb/6b04881a2f66c5b2bb03d0733746c321

Thx for that one-liner!
Results for
2016-05-01; 60.0792
2016-05-02; 58.1047
2016-05-03; 61.3964
2016-05-04; 66.0763
2016-05-05; 64.3229
2016-05-06; 63.7484
2016-05-07; 65.8224
2016-05-08; 69.3531
2016-05-09; 72.2344
2016-05-10; 72.5063
2016-05-11; 70.0318
2016-05-12 (until 14:45 UTC); 67.0258

nice trend. 1% a day.
20 days to go.

The daily average of getprotocolvotes (logged every 15 minutes) protocol 4.0 percentages:

2016-05-12; 66.5047
2016-05-13; 65.7536
2016-05-14; 66.7682
2016-05-15; 65.6583
2016-05-16; 61.8755
2016-05-17; 63.5182
2016-05-18; 65.1107 (until 06:45 UTC)

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“Lowering the switch threshold to 55% from its current value of 90%: 55% is the lowest percentage that we can be reasonably confident will prevent large numbers of consecutive orphan blocks as the switch occurs. While a 55% percent threshold brings higher risks of problems around the time of the switch, the risks are much smaller than the risks of substantial additional delay that the 90% threshold brings.”

5.0 Release feature list

How about 66%? 2/3 majority.

Aggregated overview of the daily average of getprotocolvotes (logged every 15 minutes); protocol 4.0 percentages:

2016-05-01; 60.0792
2016-05-02; 58.1047
2016-05-03; 61.3964
2016-05-04; 66.0763
2016-05-05; 64.3229
2016-05-06; 63.7484
2016-05-07; 65.8224
2016-05-08; 69.3531
2016-05-09; 72.2344
2016-05-10; 72.5063
2016-05-11; 70.0318
2016-05-12; 66.5047
2016-05-13; 65.7536
2016-05-14; 66.7682
2016-05-15; 65.6583
2016-05-16; 61.8755
2016-05-17; 63.5182
2016-05-18; 66.0281
2016-05-19; 67.8094
2016-05-20; 66.3436
2016-05-21; 56.1188
2016-05-22; 58.6167
2016-05-23; 58.7573
2016-05-24; 61.2784 (until 19:45 UTC)

It’s not getting anywhere close to 90%.
I’m aware that a release is in the works that reduces the quorum to 55%.
I’m not a fan of sacrificing security for convenience, which reducing the quorum is.

Should we rather start working on this?

I already made the first move to form a group that can handle the BKS distribution:

Anyone around that wants to follow?
Or is it just me thinking that lowering the threshold instead of choosing the more inconvenient, but safer way should be preferred?
How many weeks ago have minters been requested to upgrade?
…or non-minting BKS holders requested to join the minting with a 4.0 client?

I still haven’t seen an email to presale buyers, would like to see this happen before we take more drastic steps. @JordanLee is there a reason we can’t or shouldn’t send out an email to presale buyers to update their clients to the latest version? Or are we waiting for 5.0.0 release?

I would assume this is the case.

And why exactly as there’s need to fix that update slump?

If they’re close to the release of v5.0, then I think it would make sense to just wait. Why send out an upgrade notice now if the next version might come out within the next week or two? Then they’d have to send a second upgrade notice almost immediately after sending the first. I would think it would make more sense to alert shareholders to take action only once, rather than twice.