Ok, will do. 1% Spread after Fees (SAF) will result in a spread from the NBT/BTC rate of 1.3% (including 0.15% fees on either side) assuming we are only charged maker fees on Poloniex.
I’m not entirely convinced that would make a difference as I have argued before that a 0.7% SAF should be sufficient to prevent most LP clashes. But given the current situation of all or nothing I will set it on 1% SAF. We really need something on the buy side right now.
Edit: spread will be updated for both Poloniex and Bittrex to 1% SAF (1.3% spread) in next 5 minute cycle. Will be away from computer for next 10-12h.
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Ok. Sorry. I was offline.
Which tx should I sign?
Please post the txs signed by you.
I am ok with replenishing the buy sides gradually as advocated by @mhps .
@masterOfDisaster is not responsive.
We should focus on @zoro and @Cybnate s gateways.
PS: sorry for the delay.
mhps
June 9, 2016, 12:45am
#790
You should sign the one to @Cybnate . If @dysconnect give you his signed tx, sign and broadcast immediately. Before he gives, please sign the @Cybnate one by @jooize here . then post it here as another 4 of 5/8 besides @dysconnect ’s for redundancy
Verified and signed, 4 of 5-8 .
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Awaiting @dysconnect s signed tx 4 of 5-8 for 5 BTC to @zoro and 5 BTC to @Cybnate
Not signing the tx for 5 BTC to @zoro and 5 BTC to @masterOfDisaster until instructed to do so.
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Signed and broadcast: c97209c9a5f129a342b0314f0551b9ada495bec76d5ebc7b238f228c68e52637
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mhps
June 9, 2016, 2:49am
#793
Let’s watch what happens on Polo nbt/btc
mhps
June 9, 2016, 3:06am
#794
Fund at 1% SAF bought in minutes .
mid price on polo now is 3% lower than feed price.
@zoro ’s 5% line seems intact.
@Cybnate what is the T2/T1 ratio on your gateway? can you post a log?
There are ~3500 nbt sitting between feed price and feed*0.993.
@masterOfDisaster , your gateway is inactive? By any chance you have fund with negative offset ?
mhps:
can you post a log?
Market Type Category Price/Share Amount Fee Total Transaction Date
NBT/BTC Buy Exchange 0.00170700 0.82800000 0.00207000 NBT (0.25%) 0.00141339 BTC 2016-06-09 02:55:07
NBT/BTC Buy Exchange 0.00171404 31.95161865 0.07987905 NBT (0.25%) 0.05476635 BTC 2016-06-09 02:54:31
NBT/BTC Buy Exchange 0.00171882 895.35438135 2.23838595 NBT (0.25%) 1.53895301 BTC 2016-06-09 02:54:31
NBT/BTC Buy Exchange 0.00171404 0.50000000 0.00125000 NBT (0.25%) 0.00085702 BTC 2016-06-09 02:53:22
NBT/BTC Buy Exchange 0.00171404 0.50000000 0.00125000 NBT (0.25%) 0.00085702 BTC 2016-06-09 02:52:23
NBT/BTC Buy Exchange 0.00163571 1.32228486 0.00330571 NBT (0.25%) 0.00216287 BTC 2016-06-09 02:51:22
NBT/BTC Buy Exchange 0.00163582 0.66114243 0.00165286 NBT (0.25%) 0.00108151 BTC 2016-06-09 02:51:22
NBT/BTC Buy Exchange 0.00165000 1.00000000 0.00250000 NBT (0.25%) 0.00165000 BTC 2016-06-09 02:51:22
NBT/BTC Buy Exchange 0.00165000 2.25669061 0.00564173 NBT (0.25%) 0.00372353 BTC 2016-06-09 02:51:22
NBT/BTC Buy Exchange 0.00166635 0.73103802 0.00182760 NBT (0.25%) 0.00121816 BTC 2016-06-09 02:51:22
NBT/BTC Buy Exchange 0.00166636 1.92852080 0.00482130 NBT (0.25%) 0.00321360 BTC 2016-06-09 02:51:22
NBT/BTC Buy Exchange 0.00166731 13.43467971 0.03358670 NBT (0.25%) 0.02239977 BTC 2016-06-09 02:51:22
NBT/BTC Buy Exchange 0.00167228 6.00000000 0.01500000 NBT (0.25%) 0.01003368 BTC 2016-06-09 02:51:22
NBT/BTC Buy Exchange 0.00168514 1.16262747 0.00290657 NBT (0.25%) 0.00195919 BTC 2016-06-09 02:51:22
NBT/BTC Buy Exchange 0.00169526 6.95461847 0.01738655 NBT (0.25%) 0.01178988 BTC 2016-06-09 02:51:22
NBT/BTC Buy Exchange 0.00169527 5.68483885 0.01421210 NBT (0.25%) 0.00963733 BTC 2016-06-09 02:51:22
NBT/BTC Buy Exchange 0.00169990 0.11560000 0.00028900 NBT (0.25%) 0.00019650 BTC 2016-06-09 02:51:22
NBT/BTC Buy Exchange 0.00170000 999.98000000 2.49995000 NBT (0.25%) 1.69996600 BTC 2016-06-09 02:51:22
NBT/BTC Buy Exchange 0.00170299 1.76623860 0.00441560 NBT (0.25%) 0.00300788 BTC 2016-06-09 02:51:22
NBT/BTC Buy Exchange 0.00170324 787.22702451 1.96806756 NBT (0.25%) 1.34083655 BTC 2016-06-09 02:51:22
NBT/BTC Buy Exchange 0.00171404 169.77469567 0.42443674 NBT (0.25%) 0.29100061 BTC 2016-06-09 02:51:22
Three minutes is an absolute record. Not good.
Wiil start withdrawing the NBT to the usual address
$9,420 on sell side of which $2,000 on T1 on Poloniex PyBot.
Will use 1 BTC=$575 x 5 = $2,875 and withdraw first lot of $2,000.
Edit: for the records transferred 1999.99 NBT: http://nuexplorer.ddns.net/transactions/3127d7c8a89d9de2657b07cfb52460186fe8fa9574695480a123781c8666ea27
The remaining will follow after 24h due to account limitations.
Edit 11-Jun: Just transferred the other 875 NBT back to FLOT
http://nuexplorer.ddns.net/transactions/8aec7f86963117d8e8ec553e6f04f17d32e524c77631e282ab1392f0dff03474
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jooize
June 9, 2016, 11:23am
#796
I’m convinced NuLaw demands FLOT to send remaining Tier 4 funds to NuLagoon Tube.
Discuss .
25.74036791 BTC to NuLagoon Tube
Signed 1 of 5-of-8
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
Right now anywhere on the buy side but sitting there.
Signed 2 of 5-of-8
Verified and signed, 3 of 5-8.
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
Why not poloniex? Isn’t it better to have it there, where everyone gets a chance to see it?
Dhume
June 9, 2016, 3:08pm
#800
Terrible Idea I’m not signing this, funds will be sold away within the hour and the peg will go into free float mode. I’ll state again a weakened peg is far more desirable then no peg at all.
My proposal would be to put 15.7 BTC up at 5% offset 7 BTC at 2.5/3% offset and 3 BTC at 1.5% offset.
henry
June 9, 2016, 3:08pm
#801
Suggestion to the plan:
Begin selling NSR asap, and ask for another NSR grant.
Selling NSR for NBT on exchange or auction.
Holding on the BTC TX to NuLagoon until #2 begin.
Reason:
We need a strike instead of continous and gentle work to restart the engine. Creating a moment NBT can be sold in large volume for what ever you like in NSR and BTC. When people see exit door widely opened, they are more likely to stay a while more.
But isn’t it against passed motions? See this .
Or can we use discretion to adapt to the situation?
Dhume
June 9, 2016, 3:19pm
#803
I don’t see any rule that enforces us to use all funds available at a 1% spread. And even if there was such a motion if it leads to suicide should we follow it? This is not a time we can afford to be careless with funds.
I agree every rule is subject to interpretation.
The motion does mention:
==
So it further leaves room for some adjustment.
Therefore I am fine with your decision not to sign.
henry
June 9, 2016, 3:56pm
#805
We just set the offset of the Tube to ±5%. Now we suggest FLOT contintue to sign the TX. It is better to put remaining BTC on Tube buy side at 5% spread than sitting on T4.
Let those pessimists who believe NBT won’t worth $0.95 exit first (with $0.5/NBT lost). If BTC can stay there a while, at least there is a message that over 60k NBT holders beleive NBT will worth more than $0.95.
But the most important is begin NSR selling asap! Buy side won’t stay long at any large spread if there is no other NBT exit provided . Urgent!
Tube will lower the spread when NBT buyback begin.
EDIT: I signed for 5% offset but it was changed to 2.5%. proceed with caution
EDIT: please sign Dhume’s proposed transaction below
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