I would like Nu to create a company I can mention on my invoices. It’s not a requirement for the proposal I just made but if this doesn’t happen I may not be able to make new proposals in the future. I just need for legal reasons a registered company name and identifier (in any country) to which I provide my services.
I think having a company would also make things easier for Nu (and B&C) to work with other developers and providers.
I think there are countries where creating companies is relatively easy and does not require any accounting or bank account. Shareholders will certainly need a person or a group to represent them and own the company (and it cannot be myself).
I think it could be an opportunity when I read about several cities who want to become the crypto capital, or the european sillicon valley. If they are serious one of those cities could potentially host the real company infrastructure that is required.
Does it need to be a company? Why can’t it be a natural person? Do you need a tax number or something? I have been custodian for development work on behalf of NuShareholders before and I’m fine to be that going forward when shareholders approve. I could explore setting up a company for that, but they would bring some cost and paper work for me with it.
We ought to be careful to accommodate @sigmike’s needs in this matter.
Linking this to the 2 of 4 multisig custodial grant I am trying to arrange, it may make sense to start a company that is in the business of providing development for Nu and B&C. I don’t think we can start a company that is Nu, and in most cases it isn’t desirable to have a particular company directly representing shareholders, although this could be done to a limited extent by motion. In this case, I don’t think the company should be understood to represent shareholders. Rather, it is just an independent corporation or partnership that seeks to serve shareholders and be funded by them. This independent corporation or partnership can receive a custodial grant and spend it.
I agree the company doesn’t have to represent Nu as a whole. I just need a legal company (that I do not own or control) to which my services are provided.
About the company location you should probably consider VAT rules too. I think in most country if the money does not come from a company then you have to pay VAT on the received funds. So custodian grants would get a significant cut. I think there are countries without VAT. It looks like some countries do not even require any accounting, so you wouldn’t have to care about it.
If you’re suggesting the Nu company would hire people directly then that may be nice but I think it would be a large increase in complexity and costs. Being paid by a foreign company may also be complex for the employees themselves, so having them create their own company is probably easier in most cases. This company doesn’t have to be specifically for Nu.
The invoices would be very standard invoices made by my own company. I just need the name of a company to put as recipient of these invoices, and some proof that the company really exists (like a tax number I can verify). Right now I’m invoicing a virtual entity which can only be considered as an individual. And having an anonymous client is not ideal either.
To be perfectly fine with the laws in my country I’d also need for each job an order from this company and a reasonable proof that the payment was actually made by it.
I think that would work if I can get a reasonable proof that the company exists and shareholders agree that payments goes though your company (it can stay in crypto currency but I think it’s better if the money really pass through your company’s hands).
Better think twice before getting entangled in the ponzi scheme Nu is right now.
I’m not saying it was designed like that, although I could very easily argue for this position.
But at the moment it definitely is.
Nu can only be sustained by collecting money from selling equity.
At some point of time in the future selling equity will dry up and Nu will be beyond saving.
All people holding Nu tokens (NSR, NBT) will face nigh complete loss.
To hammer it into you: Nu needs revenue!
This is the most important topic, it Nu wants to survive.
The chief of liquidity operations doesn’t act accordingly and instead continues the ponzi scheme.
Please don’t go into jail for his scam by being held responsible for what will sooner or later happen.
If you run a company that’s associated with Nu, prosecution will at some point investigate you. There just needs to be someone angry enough to bring a charge against Nu.
Such drama! No one is going to jail around here. In terms of present wrong doing in the community, the mishandling of 13 BTC held by @masterOfDisaster seems most prominent to me. But that is hardly a case that calls for a prison sentence. Rather, we have been quite patient as we search for a solution that is satisfying to everyone without the need for punishment or threats.