There:
As detailed in the compensation section, the 3 million NSR is personal compensation for me.
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That is personal compensation. The contract gives me use of the 100 million NSR in FLOT funds. I intend to use them if I am elected.
Reminds me of history class:
Does Godwinâs law apply now?
Can I stop posting, because Iâve lost the discussion?
âthere is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion
forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and
whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progressâ
You really seem to need money Jordan, but maybe find some help outside of crypto to achieve that. If this grant even gets minor support, then shareholders should get highly doubtful when taking the current difficulty into account.
@Phoenix, if this passes, is my understanding that FLOT will continue to hold the NSR in multisig? You will just have the power to direct them what to do with it? In other words, you will not be holding these NSR yourself, correct? Because that would be unacceptable for them to be held by one person.
Your impudence does not know any limits. You have probably made more than 100k US dollars from the buybacks and you keep asking for compensation. Letâs go for performance-related compensation! With every $0.10 that the peg is being raised and kept for 72 hours, you will receive 500k Nushares. First compensation kicks in with the peg level at $0.40.
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@Phoenix, it needs to be made clear in your motion that you donât have the power to hold the reserve or NuShares for sale by yourself, meaning you cannot order FLOT to send them solely to yourself for any reason. They need to be kept under multisig control with FLOT. You can give FLOT orders on how to proceed with sales or liquidity operations using the reserve, but you cannot hold either yourself without multisig protecting the funds from theft. Can you please add something like this into the grant?
Yes, FLOT will continue to hold the bulk of the NSR in multisig. I plan to ask for 5 or 10 million NSR from FLOT to begin with, to be split in single key addresses controlled by myself and one other person (it wonât be a secret who this is, but the person hasnât been selected yet, but I will say I am planning on having a conversation with @jooize about filling this role). This NSR will be sold, likely through auction and Poloniex.
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Thatâs great. Can you please put the above limitation of power that I described in your grant just so it is official and shareholders have protection?
Sadly, I think that is wishful thinking.
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If this motion passes - as FĂźhrer/Duce of Liquidity Operations - will Phoenix have the power to delegate his liquidity operations to unknown/non-reputable individuals?
BTW this seems to lead to a Guided/Managed democracy way.
This reminds me of some thoughts from Hayek: he claimed that a limited democracy might be better than other forms of limited government at protecting liberty but that an unlimited democracy was worse than other forms of unlimited government because âits government loses the power even to do what it thinks right if any group on which its majority depends thinks otherwiseâ.
@Phoenix, important parts of what you are going to do
describes behaviour for which @JordanLee created a post called âMake Firing and Replacing Incompetent Liquidity Providers Our Top Priorityâ
That doesnât make much sense unless you want to
- be marked as incompetent
- acknowledge that this behaviour (especially increasing the spread) is the only reasonable behaviour, if the funds are low on buy side
Do you plan to make the spread symmetric?
And if, what for? To prevent Jordanâs motion text from strictly applying to what you do?
Or would you be trying to match the market needs?
Finally some reasonâŚ
Iâd rather see somebody more competent than you apply for such a role and hope you donât get much support for this motion. The only good thing is the transparency promised by this motion.
Are shareholders desperate enough to elect a pseudonym fro this job that registered a few days ago?
Seriously?
There are some good threads that try to deal with the situation:
This motion here isnât among them.
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@Phoenix is @JordanLee. I believe Iâve read enough of his replies over the last several years to know the way he writes. Jordan would have called this person out a while ago if he was an impersonator trying to trick shareholders. I still donât completely understand why heâs using an alternate identity. I thought he was trying to make a point about authority yesterday, but it doesnât really matter. Voting for this grant means youâre putting Jordan Lee, the architect of Nu in charge of liquidity operations.
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All logic dictates that we cannot take this as truth, and must assume that @phoenix has built absolutely no trust with the community and may easily steal all funds entrusted.
Voting for this grant means centralizing all Nuâs power in some rando that just joined up a few days ago.
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This 100%. Itâs completely against what cryptocurrency tries to achieve, decentralization.
But even if we had the proof needed to feel confident knowing this is JL (we donât), the fact that he is doing this and completely dodging questions about it still makes it unacceptable to vote for him.
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@Phoenix, please just drop the act and start using your @JordanLee account again. Iâm 99.9% sure itâs you and most other people arenât falling for it either. You write the same. You say the same things. You give long speeches about decentralization and liquidity. You act stubborn. You dodge questions about revenue. You put threads up for voting with no chance for shareholders to help in the drafting process.
Itâs you. We all know it. Whatever the reason for this is, I have no idea, but itâs only hurting your chances of getting your motion passed. Just come back out as @JordanLee so we can get things done.
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Just having a statement that @Phoenix is @JordanLee wouldnât be enough.
Why not starting with providing airtight accounting information?
Or a comprehensive description how to use the discretion?
We can gather about JordanLee that he has an understanding about liquidity in theory, but no practical experience.
On the contrary: he has an immense lack of knowledge, that others have.
This would be your first choice as dictator of liquidity operations?
Are you out of your mind?
Did @JordanLee ruin enough to present himself or even better - a sock puppet - as the best solution thatâs available and you believe that?
Why not having @Cybnate in that role? Or @jooize? Or @mhps? Or @Nagalim?
Because theyâd first think and act then in a reasonable manner?
Do you think you need somethign crazy now?
Maybe you should vote for @Phoenix or @JordanLee 
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Bitcoin invented the permissionless mining.
Nubits has invented the permissionless ideation and leadership.
This crisis is a tremendous opportunity to be all leaders, identify the cracks and fill them, one by one.
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