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Sorry. I am getting emotional.

His account clearly withdrew fraudulently obtained money from our exchange, don’t pretend we are going out with pitchforks for vigilante justice. That is simply not the case, and you trying to pretend that is what is happening makes your position look even more like you are hiding the information for your own self interest.

We are simply asking for information about the suspect so we can hand it over to the authorities so they can determine his guilt or innocence.

You are making your own exchange look bad by being completely unwilling to work with other Exchanges to bring suspected criminals to justice.

What really makes you look bad is the fact that withholding this information long as possible you gain by cornering the NBT/BTC market. You are specifically unwilling to work with an exchange that was taking a large part of your business.

Without the information you have we will have a hard time bringing this suspect to the authorities so they can determine guilt or innocence.

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I have to say going through the police is the right way. CCEDK has an obligation to respect customers’ privacy (although I didn’t check if there was relevant lines in the registration info. i.e. if there was an explicite privacy policy). This is not a cut and dry issue, however. BTER repeatedly acted to freeze customer’s fund which BTER deemed suspicious, and gained karma from the community, probably gained more business, and probably lost some customers who value procedure justice.

This doesn’t cost anything and Nu shareholder make use of this weapon – nubits they could create – to mobilize forces under the sun or in the shadow against the thief that messes with Nu.

That was clearly not the case. I suggest some mediation to get things settled, if at all possible.

There is very clear precedent in the United States, even if a bank errors and your account has more money than it was supposed to have. If you withdraw that money and spend it as if you own it, that is a clear act of theft.

You are taking the word of a person we have clear evidence stole 60,000 USD worth of NuBits and Bitcoin and refusing to help us at least bring authorities into this. And you are doing this for your own selfish interest because less competition means more of the NBT/BTC traffic will be routed to your site. Not helping us bring information to the authorities directly helps you because it hurts your competition and that is simply wrong.

The fact that you take the words of someone who fraudulently walked away with 60,000 USD worth of Nu projects money over a respected exchange shows there is something clearly wrong. You are siding against us because it is in your best interest, you are able to withhold information from competition that was on a path to eclipse your exchange.

Why not let the authorities decide who is guilty and who is innocent instead of deciding for yourself and concealing a suspect?

The emails themselves show he admits to taking money that did not belong to him and you still defend him and conceal his identity.

You did not provide information that I asked for, I asked for information I could go to the police with so they could begin a proper investigation. If anything you just provided more information proving you are concealing the identity of a known thief.

I agree, I have to get back to my work of trying to locate the suspect Ronny continues to hide so I can initiate a proper police investigation.

What has happened in the last few days is certainly the biggest hurdle that this community has faced. We will get through it together.

For this forum to turn into a shouting match, would likely be worse for this community and it’s public image than the thefts that have taken place.

In this trying time, please lets keep cool heads and egos and work together to get to the bottom of these issues. Keep this conversation constructive. I don’t want to see any more speculative accusations or name calling in here. Lets work with facts and have some respect for privacy policies and due process.


To be clear this wouldn’t be the first time CCEDK made false statements:

@Excoin and @ronny : Out of respect to the Nu community and shareholders who have had a very difficult last few days, I would like to request that you take any further conversations back to a private conversation.

This thread will be closed. If additional information comes to light, that is more than a back-and-forth of finger-pointing and of relevant interest to the Nu community, please start a new thread.