Current Liquidity

alix.coinerella.com
shows the opposite!
what to trust?

Just means that NuLagoon didn’t balance liquidity.

well, my BTC wall in polo has reached the 2.4 BTC.
I have a lot of NBT for exchange to balance the buy wall :wink:

$ 0.983610 at polo

@JordanLee @henry

The FLOT can do this now. Somebody forge a txn with henry or zoro and the multisig account.

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No need to panic.

BTC/USD rate according to Bitfinex results in a USD/BTC rate of 0.00266439:

Poloniex NBT/BTC pair orders:

The best sell orders are at 0.00266306 and the buy orders at 0.00263556.
Sell side is at $0.9995
Buy side is at $0.9891.

With increased BTC volatility, the NBT/BTC orders will sometimes lag behind the changed BTC/USD price. And depending on the price feeds that are used, there will be some difference added to it.
But if you sell side prices below $1, you know that the wall shift is upcoming.
The spread between $0.9995 and $0.9891 is ok (roughly 1%).
There several were seconds between the screenshots I took. This adds some uncertainty as well.

The overall buy and sell sides are not very imbalanced - it’s just the walls on Poloniex that are quite imbalanced:

{
"total" : {
"buy" : 73542.1449,
"sell" : 59820.813
},
"tier" : {
"1" : {
"buy" : 20701.8288,
"sell" : 18230.7223
},
"2" : {
"buy" : 9041.81,
"sell" : 2281.7266
},
"3" : {
"buy" : 40049.436,
"sell" : 31556.0
}

The 15min average on alix is 37% in that image. As an FLOT member, do you @masterOfDisaster not think we need a rebalance txn now? You have the authority to say as much.

Currently Tier 3 is mostlytheoretical so I hope some FLOT members can help trading with Tier 1/2 LPs.

I sit between two chairs as such.
Sufficient orders in buy and sell sides at all exchanges that are officially supported by Nu (by paying for liquidity operations there) are important and would like to balance them over and over to keep them balanced.

The screenshot shows T1 that is really on the order books.
getliquidityinfo showed

"total" : {
"buy" : 73542.1449,
"sell" : 59820.813
},
"tier" : {
"1" : {
"buy" : 20701.8288,
"sell" : 18230.7223
}

One Poloniex side is low, while on other exchanges the situation is vice versa.

The decentralized design of the FLOT will make the FLOT always slow in balancing walls, especially in times of rapid BTC/USD rate changes maybe too slow.
Nu needs fixed compensation rather sooner than later (ideally with the opportunity to temporarily increase compensation for a low side) as well as a supporting T3.

This is nothing the FLOT or @JordanLee should be concerned with.
But until we have fixed compensation and a working T3 scheme, the FLOT needs to try to balance this.

so you do agree that a txn needs to be made today? i would suggest that we need to move $10k to buy side.

This is not ideal, but it will give FLOT practice and shareholders confidence that they can act responsibly in time of need. Also, the FLOT needs to get together to sign the NSRbuyback Txn today anyway, so it’s actually kind of convenient to do both at the same time.

I agree with @Nagalim lets move some funds to polo buy side, and the 39.9 BTC that needs to go to NSRbuyback.

As the walls are more or less 3:1 (30 BTC / 10 BTC), removing roughly 10 BTC value from the sell side and putting 10 BTC on the buy side should be a good start - at least if we speak of interacting with T1.

If we could find someone selling NBT from T2 or T3 and putting the BTC on T1 buy side, the FLOT could buy 20 BTC worth of NBT and have them put on T1.

@zoro

Q: how many time will FLOT group take to sign a txn?

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5 of 8

sorry , i mean how many hours will take?

It depends on how fast the FLOT members are aware of the situation and are ready to sign.
By terms most have 36 hours for that.
This deals with BTC and the multisig requires 5 of 8 signatures to move funds.

Another reason why Nu shouldn’t rely on the FLOT for balancing (temporarily?) imbalanced T1 walls…
The FLOT is just not made for that!

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The tough part is volatility, which is a problem whether we deal with T3 or T1. We’ll need to take into account the price swings, and I guess we need to come up with protocols to handle that.

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Perhaps T1 LPs should continue to contact FSRT and Jordan until T3 custodians become reality?
MoD is right about T4 (FLOT) and T1 interactions.

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I think the effect of fixed compensation is even more important for situations like the current one.
Would you be willing to do business with the FLOT - sending NBT to a T4 FLOT address and receiving BTC in turn to put the BTC to Poloniex buy side?