Like to repeat that I think this is an important grant. It provides liquidity (5k) on the USD/NBT pair on CCEDK which we currently don’t have anywhere. One can argue about the price for this liquidity (see discussion), but lacking other options I suggest to vote for it.
Add this to the custodian vote (under Vote) in your wallet if your in favor of it:
Got the link to this topic from Facebook. Voted.
I used to have problem with LPC grant proposals that needs the blockchain to generate nubits as the reward, because these nubits will enter circulation without having the same amount asset in Nu reserve to back them up. Now that burning nubits is likely to be implemented this is not a big problem anymore.
However I think what GreatScott suggested – this amount will be consumed very quickly by someone’s trying to cash out so the LPC could run out of USD early in the service term, consequently crippling the service early – is likely to happen in a bear market. Unless the LPC will rebalance actively.
So @cryptog, are you going to rebalance after buy side liquidity runs out and no sell side transaction provides fresh USD for e.g. 3 days? By rebalancing I mean e.g. using NBT on the sell side to buy BTC then using the BTC to buy USD for the buy side.
I would definitely appreciate to hear that too as it would make the proposal a lot more valuable when confirmed.
I understand your concern.
The issue is that https://www.ccedk.com/btc-usd has low liquidity on the buy side for a decent price.
If doing the rebalancing under such conditions is mandatory, then I suggest that the liquidity provider that is currently offering 35000 nbts or so in sales for USD right now starts doing some rebalancing.
I think it is KTm’s LPC operation. It would be nice if rebalancing could be included for NBT/USD. Note that KTm’s operation finds out how exactly LPCs work through a lot of work, covers multiple NBT/crypto pairs (more risky) in addition to NBT/USD, over many months, for a 2% fee.
I see. If the rebalancing implies more than 10% loss of capital because of low liquidity on BTC/USD and because of BTC’s downtrend, I do not think it makes sense to me economically to request 10% of interest.
If there is rebalancing, I believe getting shares as a reward makes much more sense.
I applaud KT. But did she put money upfront?.
I could try to balance from time to time but depending on the liquidity of BTC/USD it is likely to produce only a thin rebalancing…
I think if you can rebanalce from time to time and cap the maximum total exchange loss to $50 for the full period, it would be very helpful. Even if every rebalancing only generate $100 buy side liquidity it would allow people to try out, which is more important than satisfying the need of whales. Think that you are providing a “faucet” with limited resources.
That makes a lot of sense.
Let me add that aspect
to the proposal.
Oh I though it would be good enough if you could just express your willing ness here and keep the proposal unchanged. If you change the proposal, although it becomes better, you have to start again from 0 vote.
If you really decide to keep the change you made to the proposal, then maybe it is better to tell people the old hash to remove at the end of the OP. I used to forget which one to delete when a proposal has a new hash.
Since the buy side is likely to be eaten up quickly,I will rebalance from time to time (from buy side to sell side) by
1- buying some bitcoins on NBT/BTC based on the proceeds of NBT/USD buy side.
2- selling those bitcoins on BTC/USD
3- putting back those us dollars for sales on NBT/USD.
I forgot to mention that I will cap the maximum total exchange loss to 50NBT.
But if it is problematic, I will remove that part.
I think at that stage it is better not to modify the hash since I have already modified the proposal in the past. I do not want to get people even more confused.
Also, that rebalancing does not change the core of the proposal.
Is that ok?
I guess it’s fine.
All right.
After more than 1 months, getting only 16% and decreasing.
I wish I could get more votes or more competition.
Hi cryptog
Here are the details for the Custodian Vote on BTgryZQ1dQNJYMjm74K3ajdRnDfsCjh3c3:
##[BTgryZQ1dQNJYMjm74K3ajdRnDfsCjh3c3][1]
[1]: https://discuss.nubits.com/t/modified-lpc-grant-request-for-supporting-nbt-usd-on-ccedk
###1.00 NBT.
Blocks: 220 (2.200000%)
Share Days: 56322731 (1.863083%)
###499.00 NBT.
Blocks: 1952 (19.520000%)
Share Days: 552704110 (18.282739%)
[I have changed the custodian address after modifying some aspects of the proposal. Please revote taking into account thew new custodian address. ]
[Please note that the quantity of NBT requested has also changed]
Hello everyone.
As discussed here a bit with @jordanlee I would like to contribute to the NBT/USD pair on CCEDK.
As you must be aware the buy wall is very thin despite the fact that ultimately NBT/USD is the only pair that matters.
I believe that it is very important to start offering liquidity on that pair so that people can start buying directly NBT without using BTC or PPC. Liquidity for crypto traders is important but what is even more important is liquidity for consumers.
The RIPEND160 hash of this proposal is: 0d29544214dc78cbf9c946c25eb8994435394871 [Do not vote for hash since it is just for proposal modification check purposes. Instead vote for the custodian address below with the quantity indicated.]
*****Proposal BEGIN******
Within 3 bank days from the latest date between the date of being elected/granted the grant and the date of having completed the set up of NuBot, I will send the equivalent of 5000 usd to ccedk and start supporting immediately the NBT/USD pair in dual mode for 1 month (30 days) using NuBot, once the funds are in place.
The funds will start on the buy side.
Every week, I will submit a report of the trades that occurred.
In compensation for the time spent, use of capital and the AML related risks taken, I am asking for 499 NBT.
custodian address: BTgryZQ1dQNJYMjm74K3ajdRnDfsCjh3c3
quantity: 499 NBT
*****Proposal END******
Since the buy side is likely to be eaten up quickly,I will rebalance from time to time (from buy side to sell side) by
1- buying some bitcoins on NBT/BTC based on the proceeds of NBT/USD buy side.
2- selling those bitcoins on BTC/USD
3- putting back those us dollars for sales on NBT/USD.
The goal is to try to maintain at least 100 USD on the buy side of NBT/USD although it is not for sure since I will cap the maximum total exchange loss to 50 USD.
Justification for the 499 NBTs.
@xjabc requested roughly 1m ago 625 NBTS for proposing an equivalent of 5000 NBTs on NBT/BTC.
That corresponded to 12.5% of monthly interested.
I request only 9.98% because I will operate on NBT/USD which logically will not diminish the quantity of my funds as much as supporting NBT/BTC could because of BTC/USD’s volatility. However there is still a risk involved regarding AML over the whole remittance process (I got my money frozen for 3 month back in March this year because of a very stubborn Japanese bank...).
If I see a need for continuing the operations after this 30-day period, I will submit another proposal at the end of the operation.
As for me, I am Cryptog, based out of Tokyo, developing the Peercoin/Nubits/Nushares communities in Japan via nubits.jp and peercoin.jp
I am also a shareholder of Nu.
PS: In anticipation of being elected, I will contact @desrever to guide me through NuBot if necessary. I got already familiarized with it 2 months ago when I tested it a bit.
Looking forward to your votes!
EDIT: Additional info
EDIT: Typo on the Twitter account
EDIT: Title
EDIT: Changed compensation
EDIT: Date of start
28DEC14 EDIT: Changed the content of the proposal with a new NBT custodian address
EDIT: Notice
EDIT: Notice
EDIT: Information added
EDIT: Added rebalancing
EDIT: Added information
Hi cryptog
Here are the details for the Custodian Vote on BTgryZQ1dQNJYMjm74K3ajdRnDfsCjh3c3:
##[BTgryZQ1dQNJYMjm74K3ajdRnDfsCjh3c3][1]
[1]: https://discuss.nubits.com/t/modified-lpc-grant-request-for-supporting-nbt-usd-on-ccedk
###1.00 NBT.
Blocks: 198 (1.980000%)
Share Days: 51251335 (1.691298%)
###499.00 NBT.
Blocks: 2190 (21.900000%)
Share Days: 578779428 (19.099768%)
[I have changed the custodian address after modifying some aspects of the proposal. Please revote taking into account thew new custodian address. ]
[Please note that the quantity of NBT requested has also changed]
Hello everyone.
As discussed here a bit with @jordanlee I would like to contribute to the NBT/USD pair on CCEDK.
As you must be aware the buy wall is very thin despite the fact that ultimately NBT/USD is the only pair that matters.
I believe that it is very important to start offering liquidity on that pair so that people can start buying directly NBT without using BTC or PPC. Liquidity for crypto traders is important but what is even more important is liquidity for consumers.
The RIPEND160 hash of this proposal is: 0d29544214dc78cbf9c946c25eb8994435394871 [Do not vote for hash since it is just for proposal modification check purposes. Instead vote for the custodian address below with the quantity indicated.]
*****Proposal BEGIN******
Within 3 bank days from the latest date between the date of being elected/granted the grant and the date of having completed the set up of NuBot, I will send the equivalent of 5000 usd to ccedk and start supporting immediately the NBT/USD pair in dual mode for 1 month (30 days) using NuBot, once the funds are in place.
The funds will start on the buy side.
Every week, I will submit a report of the trades that occurred.
In compensation for the time spent, use of capital and the AML related risks taken, I am asking for 499 NBT.
custodian address: BTgryZQ1dQNJYMjm74K3ajdRnDfsCjh3c3
quantity: 499 NBT
*****Proposal END******
Since the buy side is likely to be eaten up quickly,I will rebalance from time to time (from buy side to sell side) by
1- buying some bitcoins on NBT/BTC based on the proceeds of NBT/USD buy side.
2- selling those bitcoins on BTC/USD
3- putting back those us dollars for sales on NBT/USD.
The goal is to try to maintain at least 100 USD on the buy side of NBT/USD although it is not for sure since I will cap the maximum total exchange loss to 50 USD.
Justification for the 499 NBTs.
@xjabc requested roughly 1m ago 625 NBTS for proposing an equivalent of 5000 NBTs on NBT/BTC.
That corresponded to 12.5% of monthly interested.
I request only 9.98% because I will operate on NBT/USD which logically will not diminish the quantity of my funds as much as supporting NBT/BTC could because of BTC/USD’s volatility. However there is still a risk involved regarding AML over the whole remittance process (I got my money frozen for 3 month back in March this year because of a very stubborn Japanese bank...).
If I see a need for continuing the operations after this 30-day period, I will submit another proposal at the end of the operation.
As for me, I am Cryptog, based out of Tokyo, developing the Peercoin/Nubits/Nushares communities in Japan via nubits.jp and peercoin.jp
I am also a shareholder of Nu.
PS: In anticipation of being elected, I will contact @desrever to guide me through NuBot if necessary. I got already familiarized with it 2 months ago when I tested it a bit.
Looking forward to your votes!
EDIT: Additional info
EDIT: Typo on the Twitter account
EDIT: Title
EDIT: Changed compensation
EDIT: Date of start
28DEC14 EDIT: Changed the content of the proposal with a new NBT custodian address
EDIT: Notice
EDIT: Notice
EDIT: Information added
EDIT: Added rebalancing
EDIT: Added information
My votes are increasing now. Probably because of the "state of union" of Jordan Lee on Decentralized Liquidity Providers.
Please read though it.
If you think my proposal is not good enough, please consider making a better proposal.
Tks.
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