I’m only sell side with $2,000 T1 Poloniex. Buy side has been gone for a while. Total funds ~4,200 NBT
As a FLOT member, I’m requesting to withdraw all NBT and BTC funds to effectively cease my NuBot dual side operation on Poloniex.
It slipped our attention that this operation is beyond its grace period since 2016-04-20:
The 45 days of free operation are over and as having 2 well-funded NuBots on Poloniex isn’t considered necessary (otherwise the deposit to @zoro’s gateway account should’ve been processed), we should decommission my NuBot and provide @zoro’s with funds.
I will of course only withdraw to FLOT addresses.
I recommend that at least 4 additional FLOT BTC group members chime in to this request. That would be sufficient to request both the NBT and the BTC withdrawal from my NuBot account (all NBT group members are BTC group members as well) and to cease the gateway operation.
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I’ll support that unless shareholders are willing to accept a reasonable premium of maintaining the service.
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That makes 2 of 5 necessary votes from FLOT members to cease operation, 0 votes to continue operation with 6 votes left.
That would require NSR holders to draft a motion soon that anticipates or overrides the decision of FLOT, which I suppose will be to cease operation of the gateway.
The recent weeks have shown that there’s is some demand for having redundancy at Poloniex (after the months before have showsn that there’s need for gateways at Poloniex).
Having my NuBot for emergencies only doesn’t seem to be sufficient - otherwise it wouldn’t have been used constantly since 2016-03-05.
I want to wait for the vote of other FLOT members or even a motion from NSR holders to decide the fate of my gateway before I consider creating a draft for a regular NuBot operation at Poloniex.
I am fine with you stopping your free operations on Polo ans shift to a paid regime.
That makes
3 of 5 necessary votes from FLOT members (@dysconnect, @cryptog, @masterOfDisaster ) to cease operation,
0 votes to continue operation with
5 votes (@Dhume, @jooize, @mhps, @ttutdxh, @woodstockmerkle) left.
We have two more dual-side gateways at Poloniex by @zoro and @Cybnate. Do we need a third, e.g. @masterOfDisaster’s one?
I want to make sure the liquidity is under control before decommissioning your gateway. Can we have you send directly to the other gateways?
Does Nu owe @masterOfDisaster 75 US-NBT?
I’m not intending on getting my gateway running properly any time soon. I don’t see a deficiency of gateway providers. In a few months I may seek a more active role in gateway provision.
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don’t know. Considering that almost all US-NBT trades happen on Poloniex, I think this exchange is important.
At the moment the liquidity is provided by ALP (NuPool; still having some trouble as it seems), NuLagoon and 3 bots (2 NuBots, 1 PyBot).
I think my NuBot isn’t really necessary. It’s a redundant operation that was gratefully accepted the last 6 weeks, because it was free of cost.
You can never know 
I fear that violates the motion on which my gateway operation is based upon:
I agree that it would be convenient to have me send the funds directly to @zoro’s gateway, but I’d prefer sticking to the terms. I’ll withdraw the NBT and BTC to FLOT multisig.
Depending on how you calculate (I think 2016-04-20 was the first day for which the daily fee applied) it’s 75 NBT or 90 NBT until today.
I thought about waiving the fee, but after thinking twice (and reminding me of how important it is to keep the awareness of NSR holders high), I tend to raise the daily fee.
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Now the thing is that with 15nbt/day we could have 3-4 different nubot gateway operators. But sadly, i don’t see new offers!
I support the decommissioning, the fee, and thanks moD for his pioneering work.
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Ahh, go with that then.
I agree you shouldn’t waive the fee. You gave a long grace period, and it may put some pressure to improve tracking of these events. We should have a calendar. I began playing a little with one for FLOT cycles, but didn’t enjoy doing it in Calendar.app.
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I also support the decommissioning and very much urge MoD to take the well earned fee. You are already doing way to much for free MoD!
Part of the reason is also I feel we’re very high on the amount of liquidity we offer, we’re offering well over 210k liquidity (buy and sell combined) which I feel is a bit much.
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One more thing regarding:
My gateway will be on standby after FLOT requested a complete withdrawal of funds. It won’t be completely unavailable:
It can be activated on short notice.
That makes
5 of 5 necessary votes from FLOT members (@dysconnect, @cryptog, @masterOfDisaster, @mhps, @Dhume ) to cease operation,
I’ll withdraw the NBT and BTC to FLOT multisig soon and have the gateway unattended on standby afterwards.
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30.35 BTC from my Poloniex gateway account to FLOT multisig address 3HikFkS2Zinab1TJq7dqp6wSPyLu7i7bhe; tx ID 019e9bf9e4bd93444192a3a31326af75c43c63719f589d81d4f61f9142ff0e67
4.31 BTC (at 464 USD/BTC eq $2,000) to Cybnate’s Poloniex gateway
Just in case @Cybnate is in favor of this proposal:
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Reasoning:
network wide the liquidity is more or less balanced with a slight overweight on buy side, but the Poloniex gateway operations are almost empty on buy side:
Mon Apr 25 20:13:08 UTC 2016
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status of the gateways in total:
bid total 1230 USD, bid side ratio 6%
ask total 17670 USD, ask side ratio 93%This output includes the PyBot funds from Bittrex.
Bot status Poloniex only:
Mon Apr 25 20:23:32 UTC 2016
status of mOD dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BFGMPykfKxXZ1otrCZcsbnTwJjKHPP9dsP -A 2
"BFGMPykfKxXZ1otrCZcsbnTwJjKHPP9dsP" : {
"buy" : 0.0,
"sell" : 0.0
status of zoro dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BJs4YbtaqCmxeHLiR6zzjnZEotYVFAPfMo -A 2
"BJs4YbtaqCmxeHLiR6zzjnZEotYVFAPfMo" : {
"buy" : 1.02,
"sell" : 13646.1263
status of Cybnate dual side PyBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep B954pkUEdkeT1G5Lq14Cisij5no3RVxHYe -A 20 | grep poloniex -A 2
"1:NBTBTC:poloniex:LiquidBits" : {
"buy" : 0.0,
"sell" : 2000.0
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