Now the thing is that with 15nbt/day we could have 3-4 different nubot gateway operators. But sadly, i don’t see new offers!
I support the decommissioning, the fee, and thanks moD for his pioneering work.
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Ahh, go with that then.
I agree you shouldn’t waive the fee. You gave a long grace period, and it may put some pressure to improve tracking of these events. We should have a calendar. I began playing a little with one for FLOT cycles, but didn’t enjoy doing it in Calendar.app.
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I also support the decommissioning and very much urge MoD to take the well earned fee. You are already doing way to much for free MoD!
Part of the reason is also I feel we’re very high on the amount of liquidity we offer, we’re offering well over 210k liquidity (buy and sell combined) which I feel is a bit much.
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One more thing regarding:
My gateway will be on standby after FLOT requested a complete withdrawal of funds. It won’t be completely unavailable:
It can be activated on short notice.
That makes
5 of 5 necessary votes from FLOT members (@dysconnect, @cryptog, @masterOfDisaster, @mhps, @Dhume ) to cease operation,
I’ll withdraw the NBT and BTC to FLOT multisig soon and have the gateway unattended on standby afterwards.
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30.35 BTC from my Poloniex gateway account to FLOT multisig address 3HikFkS2Zinab1TJq7dqp6wSPyLu7i7bhe; tx ID 019e9bf9e4bd93444192a3a31326af75c43c63719f589d81d4f61f9142ff0e67
4.31 BTC (at 464 USD/BTC eq $2,000) to Cybnate’s Poloniex gateway
Just in case @Cybnate is in favor of this proposal:
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 verify and sign.
Reasoning:
network wide the liquidity is more or less balanced with a slight overweight on buy side, but the Poloniex gateway operations are almost empty on buy side:
Mon Apr 25 20:13:08 UTC 2016
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status of the gateways in total:
bid total 1230 USD, bid side ratio 6%
ask total 17670 USD, ask side ratio 93%This output includes the PyBot funds from Bittrex.
Bot status Poloniex only:
Mon Apr 25 20:23:32 UTC 2016
status of mOD dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BFGMPykfKxXZ1otrCZcsbnTwJjKHPP9dsP -A 2
"BFGMPykfKxXZ1otrCZcsbnTwJjKHPP9dsP" : {
"buy" : 0.0,
"sell" : 0.0
status of zoro dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BJs4YbtaqCmxeHLiR6zzjnZEotYVFAPfMo -A 2
"BJs4YbtaqCmxeHLiR6zzjnZEotYVFAPfMo" : {
"buy" : 1.02,
"sell" : 13646.1263
status of Cybnate dual side PyBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep B954pkUEdkeT1G5Lq14Cisij5no3RVxHYe -A 20 | grep poloniex -A 2
"1:NBTBTC:poloniex:LiquidBits" : {
"buy" : 0.0,
"sell" : 2000.0
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 there a motion for this statement? The overall wall liquidity being buy>sell, I think injecting more btc is not a good idea.
I’d rather trade NBT at NuLagoon than letting gateways sit with empty buy sides.
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No. The only motion ruling when FLOT deposits to gateways is the FLOT motion itself, which specifies a global liquidity of 40% before injecting funds.
Let’s also trade about 5k NBT with NuLagoon while sending in those buy funds.
No. It is up to FLOT how the gateways are used. I just made a statement regarding prior experience about ALP and MLP liquidity. ALP may stand down whenever the users see fit. NU Lagoon may have a nubot outage at any time (as any gateway) thus the more wall makers we have, the better 
needs one more signer (or three more votes against signing it).
@cryptog, @Dhume, @jooize and me signed it.
@mhps expressed why he doesn’t want to sign it.
@ttutdxh, @woodstockmerkle, @dysconnect what about you?
I’d like to see a reason why you are reluctant to signing this tx that was initiated almost two days ago (Apr 24, 11:04 PM) or your signature
by the way i think that this tx is not necessary at the moment since the buy side is higher than the sell side.
I created this tx just following the non-motion non-grant logic of keeping gateways funded on each side.
I am not sure whether to sign it right now because it feels we are depleting T4 while the overall liquidity is okay. We need to take back some funds we’ve sent into NuLagoon before, unless we think BTC will drop and believe that NBT sales will solve the problem.
Though the main reason was that we weren’t pinged and I didn’t notice this transaction didn’t go through… 
You’re right. Keeping the overall balance in the view is important.
But keeping gateways funded is important, too.
Well done to create an NBT -> BTC exchange tx at NLT (NuLagoon Tube).
This might help getting the 13.2 BTC deposit done:
After 7,000 NBT were traded at NLP, there should be little reason not to deposit funds at @zoro’s gateway, right?
FLOT members need to follow the development closely
If it had been an emergency, I’d have paged the FLOT members who can sign it; but I saw no emergency.
I only paged them recently, because I wanted to raise awareness to this tx.
There will then be strong reason. But if I have to choose one depleted gateway and almost delepleted T4 when overall there is an overall balance, I will keep the coins in T4.
Remember a year ago when the buy side liquidity was low, we let bittrex run drry for days in a row.
Why are we so afraid of selling NSR to replenish T4 BTC reserves if we aren’t reluctant to buy NSR if there are plenty BTC in reserve?
The reserve limit of 15% of circulating NBT is artificial.
If we hadn’t bought back NSR, we still had BTC in reserve.
There are more than 50,000 NBT parked at the moment:
{
"version" : "v2.1.1-RC1-15-gcf6a10f-beta",
"protocolversion" : 2000000,
"walletversion" : 1,
"walletunit" : "B",
"balance" : 0.0,
"newmint" : 0.0,
"stake" : 0.0,
"parked" : 0.0,
"blocks" : 849473,
"moneysupply" : 1297117.2439,
"totalparked" : 51413.9887,
"timeoffset" : -1,
"connections" : 8,
"proxy" : "",
"ip" : "obfuscated",
"difficulty" : 0.00019094,
"testnet" : false,
"keypoololdest" : 1460528227,
"keypoolsize" : 101,
"paytxfee" : 0.01,
"errors" : ""
}Still the NBT demand is low enough that the T4 BTC reserve is almost empty (if I hadn’t started the termination of my gateway there would be only 13.2 BTC left; now it’s 43 BTC and if the 7,000 NBT get sent to NuLagoon Tube it will be 15 more).
@JordanLee doesn’t respond to the request to deposit to @zoro’s gateway - I’m not complaining that he doesn’t deposit, but a reason for it would ne nice.
The problem isn’t that @zoro’s gateway has no buy side.
The problem is that T4 BTC reserve is almost empty.
Should we really sit and wait until there’s 0 BTC in reserve?
Sitting idly is not one of my strengths.
Not filling a gateway arguing that the reserves are low, but not starting to think about an NSR sale doesn’t compute in my brain.
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