[Draft] motion to increase the percentage of reserves

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The core btc reserve threshold will be increased each week, starting the week after this motion passes. It will increase by 0.5% of circulating nubits per week, taking the target threshold from 15% to 30%. The increases will cease once the threshold is 30% (approximately 7.5 months).

The peercoin reserve target will be increased to 10% upon passage, and the peercoin flow will be fixed to 2/3 until the increases in the core reserve are completed (at which point it will still be 2/3 by standard calculation).
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Thank you bringing this thread back to topic!

Do we want to stay at a reserve of 30% without a floor?
Using such a floor could easily be translated in funds that can be put in NuSafe and alike.

Is 30% the next step and we look where we go to once we’re there?

Why is that? How B&C can harm NU? Can you please elaborate?

I don’t believe people are floating the idea of a fixed supply PoS currency in order to compete with Peercoin. The only reason this is being talked about at all is because putting much of our reserves into NuShares turned out to be a serious mistake, which we are paying for now. Selling a new volatile asset which is inexpensive to maintain would help us partially refill our reserves, giving us some breathing room.

NuShareholders themselves don’t necessarily need to believe that a fixed supply PoS coin would be successful in the long-term in order to provide it as a product on the network. I have no delusions that Nu would succeed without stable value coins. We would simply be providing an additional product which may or may not have some demand from the market. If not, then we wasted our time. If there is some demand though and people do buy it, it will help refill our reserves to a certain degree and get us back on track.

Our main product will most likely always be NuBits though. Nu will not survive without it. A fixed supply PoS currency as the sole product offering will not save Nu, and I wouldn’t expect it to. But, if there is some demand for it from the market, it could possibly offer Nu a life raft. Offering a product like this though means we would have to commit to it and follow through with regular distributions.

Good question. Is 30% just a target for us to aim for? What happens when we hit it? Will we need to pass a motion to discontinue NuShare buybacks?

Proof is in the pudding. The question is how many shares does it take to right the ship and if it is more or less than the burned shares.

This isnt really a question. The Standard and Core motion is very clear about such matters.

The effect of stable liquidity is spelled out in the outstanding nbt motion.

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The core btc reserve threshold will be increased each week, starting the week after this motion passes. It will increase by 0.5% of circulating nubits per week, taking the target threshold from 15% to 30%. The increases will cease once the threshold is 30% (approximately 7.5 months).

The peercoin reserve target will be increased to 10% upon passage, and the peercoin flow will be fixed to 2/3 until the increases in the core reserve are completed (at which point it will still be 2/3 by standard calculation).

@mhps will be paid 10,000 nsr/month for updating the buyback calculation (until the core reserve has reached 30% threshold). This will be paid by FLOT at request from @mhps and only if FLOT is satisfied with the work provided.
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It made so far successful investment in B&C.

As long as pegging ops go on, the peg will recover when BTC price falls. Traders will come back to use Nubits.

Updating the calculator takes more than one hour -ish per month even when relevant motions are clearly written.

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Who tells you 30% is enough, why not 25%? Why not 50%?

Sometimes I believe this community is insane.

  1. When Nu began to work on NBT/BTC pair rather than NBT/USD pair demonstrated by white paper in 2014, I was astonished. BTC pair brings higher risk, while higher risk means higher cost if you wanna eleminate it. This risk is even higher than the exchange fault and government intervene, you need to be succesful at first and then attract government otherwise you die silently!

  2. When Nu believe they can spend BTC proceed as wish, I was really surprised. That’s typical ponzi.

3)When Nu said they can get help from NSR when NBT pegging in danger, I was puzzled. When iphone sales drops, the shareprice of AAPL plumbs, so is the relation of NBT/NSR. If NBT pegging fail, NSR is rubbish, and you plan to rely on it. This NBT/NSR shift should be done when NBT pegging very well, and do it stealthily. But what did you do when NBT pegging good? The opposite direction! the share buy back, you could not be more wrong!

  1. When Jordan said DAO is not a company, I completely understand that seldom of this community has proper common sense of financial management.

You declare you are inventing a newest machine but not comply old newton laws/ thermaldynamics rules.

So the machine is perpetual motion machine?

What happens if bitcoin jumps a couple hundred in the next several weeks?

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@Sabreiib you arent a shareholder. Go away.

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More people start to think about taking profit and getting into stable value stores? The buy side cannot be much thinner. We get ready to take in cheap nubits in panic sell / bank run. But mostly we just sit out the storm.

We need to accept that the peg only works as long as its effective reserve (including fund and insurance) lasts. So before 100% reserve is attained, we have to accept that the peg is not 100% available. A peg that is not 100% available is still useful as long as the customer know under what condition it will be available.

Are we under the assumption that our customers understand the inherent risks of our product? The majority of our customers have the expectation the peg can/will fail under pressured circumstances?

Where is the feedback loop from our customers coming from? Bitcointalk?

It’s common sense. But we should make it clear when/under what condition the peg will not be there. The reserve information is already available in buyback calculation so it is audited every week in public.

the buyback calculator is open source and can be run at any time.

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We B&C investors are big creditors of Nu, because Jordan bought around 200K NBT, and our B&C dev fund(NBT) is in danger due to the possible failure.

Be careful with your words, I warn you, I can let B&C 4.0 protocol vote decreases to below 40% within 24 hours. I can also make NBT feel difficult on B&C exchange, if Nu can survive to the release of B&C if B&C can be released at all.

You will also find difficult to be voted as a reputed signer if I vote you downwards.

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What are the costs of an increased ratio, aside from greater volatility risks in the assets we hold? There is very little marginal cost to increasing the ratio; we are not storing gold bars in a vault that require expensive physical storage.

I would propose a 67% reserve ratio for the next few years, meaning we have over two-thirds coverage on all outstanding NuBits. The reserve should be diversified into the top 5 cryptocurrency assets at any given time to ensure we are protected in the event one collapses in value or has a security issue. The reserve would not be filled to 67% through offering parking rates, but rather gradually approached as we sell more NBT or other assets. As a simple example, if we have 500,000 US-NBT outstanding and $100,000 in reserve, we only have a 20% reserve. If we eventually sold $500,000 worth of CN-NBT and an additional $75,000 worth of US-NBT, we would then have a $675,000 reserve for $1,000,000 worth of liabilities, a 67.5% ratio. The 0.5% excess funds would be used for buybacks on NuShares.

I intend on supporting your motion @masterofDisaster provided the reserve ratio is robust enough, thank you for introducing it.

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What the hell are you talking about? You went from thought proking to a turd in 48 hours. Be cool man.

As a big BKC holder, it’s my duty to fire anybody who is improper for the important work of B&C.

Anybody without common sense of accounting or financial management should be fired, this is cruel business not a club.

At the risk of going off-topic, this is an interesting discussion point for shareholders. @Sabreiib is openly threatening to stall progress on B&C Exchange as a hostile shareholder. Presumably, this would damage the value of his BKS holdings, which is against his self-interest.

Game theory would suggest that he will eventually either support B&C Exchange (thereby increasing the value of his BKS investment) or sell his BKS (thereby losing the ability to damage the network). The only other option is that he is creating false threats to scare the market downwards so he can acquire more BKS. Either way, this is a positive design feature of Peershares, even though I doubt any one shareholder will acquire enough BKS to permanently stall the network for their own amusement.

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Yea but let’s get along here. We could use your input. You are not an idiot, please commit your intelligence to the project. Everything prior to this has been provocative and interruptive in a good way.

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