Current Liquidity

[mhps]

BTC price is near $450 resistance. I guess the liquidity will reverse soon as a lot of people sell their BTC and get into NBT.

[zoro]

I hope you are right since i am expecting btc passes the 500$ soon

[masterOfDisaster]

A bit late, but…

Liquidity; ALix T1 + gateways (poloniex dual side, numerous sell side):

Wed Apr 20 21:00:04 UTC 2016

status of the gateways in total:
bid total 26647 USD, bid side ratio 42%
ask total 35580 USD, ask side ratio 57%

status of the ALP last 15 minutes:
bid total 66433 USD, bid side ratio 52%
ask total 59400 USD, ask side ratio 47%

status of the ALP last 4 hours:
bid total 66715 USD, bid side ratio 52%
ask total 61504 USD, ask side ratio 47%

status of the total liquidity; gateways and ALP (last 15 minutes):
bid total 93080 USD, bid side ratio 49%
ask total 94980 USD, ask side ratio 50%

status of the total liquidity; gateways and ALP (last 4 hours):
bid total 93362 USD, bid side ratio 49%
ask total 97084 USD, ask side ratio 50%

Gateway status at Poloniex (dual side), NuLagoon MLP at Poloniex and several sell side only exchanges

Wed Apr 20 21:00:01 UTC 2016
status of mOD dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BFGMPykfKxXZ1otrCZcsbnTwJjKHPP9dsP -A 2
        "BFGMPykfKxXZ1otrCZcsbnTwJjKHPP9dsP" : {
            "buy" : 16002.06,
            "sell" : 15463.6728
status of zoro dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BJs4YbtaqCmxeHLiR6zzjnZEotYVFAPfMo -A 2
        "BJs4YbtaqCmxeHLiR6zzjnZEotYVFAPfMo" : {
            "buy" : 10645.15,
            "sell" : 16093.6465
status of Cybnate dual side PyBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep B954pkUEdkeT1G5Lq14Cisij5no3RVxHYe -A 20 | grep poloniex -A 2
        "1:NBTBTC:poloniex:LiquidBits" : {
            "buy" : 0.0,
            "sell" : 0.0
status of NuLagoon dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep BTRnV9uLSPVJw4jn1JMV2Ki2cfFqPYip9o -A 1000 | grep poloniex -A 2 | tail -n 1  | awk -F':' ... and some more stuff
        "1:NBTBTC:poloniex:0.3.2a_1461111645493_8f3d06" : {
            "buy" : 12000.0,
            "sell" : 152.4262
--
        "2:NBTBTC:poloniex:0.3.2a_1461111645493_8f3d06" : {
            "buy" : 2162.04,
            "sell" : 0.0
status of mOD single side NuBot at hitbtc:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep BETwD8nSjtj9ADSvej2na34xmsMYwPRymv -A 200 | grep hitbtc | tail -n 1 | awk -F':' ...and some more stuff'
        "1:NBTBTC:hitbtc:0.4.1_1461097479835_167440" : {
            "buy" : 0.0,
            "sell" : 499.98
--
        "2:NBTBTC:hitbtc:0.4.1_1461097479835_167440" : {
            "buy" : 0.09,
            "sell" : 1499.936

[masterOfDisaster]

Liquidity; ALix T1 + gateways (poloniex dual side, numerous sell side):

Thu Apr 21 20:21:24 UTC 2016

status of the gateways in total:
bid total 18060 USD, bid side ratio 28%
ask total 45870 USD, ask side ratio 71%

status of the ALP last 15 minutes:
bid total 60139 USD, bid side ratio 50%
ask total 57867 USD, ask side ratio 49%

status of the ALP last 4 hours:
bid total 62847 USD, bid side ratio 50%
ask total 61482 USD, ask side ratio 49%

status of the total liquidity; gateways and ALP (last 15 minutes):
bid total 78199 USD, bid side ratio 42%
ask total 103737 USD, ask side ratio 57%

status of the total liquidity; gateways and ALP (last 4 hours):
bid total 80907 USD, bid side ratio 42%
ask total 107352 USD, ask side ratio 57%

Gateway status at Poloniex (dual side), NuLagoon MLP at Poloniex and several sell side only exchanges

Thu Apr 21 20:21:31 UTC 2016
status of mOD dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BFGMPykfKxXZ1otrCZcsbnTwJjKHPP9dsP -A 2
        "BFGMPykfKxXZ1otrCZcsbnTwJjKHPP9dsP" : {
            "buy" : 6381.79,
            "sell" : 25287.0649
status of zoro dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BJs4YbtaqCmxeHLiR6zzjnZEotYVFAPfMo -A 2
        "BJs4YbtaqCmxeHLiR6zzjnZEotYVFAPfMo" : {
            "buy" : 10790.83,
            "sell" : 16093.6465
status of Cybnate dual side PyBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep B954pkUEdkeT1G5Lq14Cisij5no3RVxHYe -A 20 | grep poloniex -A 2
        "1:NBTBTC:poloniex:LiquidBits" : {
            "buy" : 0.0,
            "sell" : 133.3333
status of Cybnate dual side PyBot at Bittrex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep B954pkUEdkeT1G5Lq14Cisij5no3RVxHYe -A 20 | grep bittrex -A 2
        "1:NBTBTC:bittrex:LiquidBits" : {
            "buy" : 1038.0492,
            "sell" : 0.0
status of NuLagoon dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep BTRnV9uLSPVJw4jn1JMV2Ki2cfFqPYip9o -A 1000 | grep poloniex -A 2 | tail -n 1  | awk -F':' ... and some more stuff
        "1:NBTBTC:poloniex:0.3.2a_1461201767982_f450fc" : {
            "buy" : 12000.0,
            "sell" : 152.4262
--
        "2:NBTBTC:poloniex:0.3.2a_1461201767982_f450fc" : {
            "buy" : 2403.8,
            "sell" : 0.0
status of huafei sell side only NuBot at bter
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BRUuKfGur7CZSLy65gYUPJUQyQZeT1XQnD -A 2
        "BRUuKfGur7CZSLy65gYUPJUQyQZeT1XQnD" : {
            "buy" : 0.08,
            "sell" : 2025.0529
status of mOD single side NuBot at hitbtc:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep BETwD8nSjtj9ADSvej2na34xmsMYwPRymv -A 1000 | grep hitbtc | tail -n 1 | awk -F':' ...and some more stuff'
        "1:NBTBTC:hitbtc:0.4.1_1461097479835_167440" : {
            "buy" : 0.0,
            "sell" : 499.98
--
        "2:NBTBTC:hitbtc:0.4.1_1461097479835_167440" : {
            "buy" : 0.09,
            "sell" : 1499.936

[Nagalim]

@masterOfDisaster you should swap 10k nbt for $10k of btc from your gateway.

[masterOfDisaster]

The swap is partly complete - the BTC arrived, but the NBT withdrawal is stuck for hours. I raised a support request 14 hours ago…

Liquidity; ALix T1 + gateways (poloniex dual side, numerous sell side):

Fri Apr 22 21:40:45 UTC 2016

status of the gateways in total:
bid total 26993 USD, bid side ratio 41%
ask total 37368 USD, ask side ratio 58%

status of the ALP last 15 minutes:
bid total 54699 USD, bid side ratio 43%
ask total 71434 USD, ask side ratio 56%

status of the ALP last 4 hours:
bid total 57609 USD, bid side ratio 46%
ask total 67488 USD, ask side ratio 53%

status of the total liquidity; gateways and ALP (last 15 minutes):
bid total 81692 USD, bid side ratio 42%
ask total 108802 USD, ask side ratio 57%

status of the total liquidity; gateways and ALP (last 4 hours):
bid total 84602 USD, bid side ratio 44%
ask total 104856 USD, ask side ratio 55%

Gateway status at Poloniex (dual side), NuLagoon MLP at Poloniex and several sell side only exchanges

Fri Apr 22 21:40:35 UTC 2016
status of mOD dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BFGMPykfKxXZ1otrCZcsbnTwJjKHPP9dsP -A 2
        "BFGMPykfKxXZ1otrCZcsbnTwJjKHPP9dsP" : {
            "buy" : 16579.16,
            "sell" : 15287.0549
status of zoro dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BJs4YbtaqCmxeHLiR6zzjnZEotYVFAPfMo -A 2
        "BJs4YbtaqCmxeHLiR6zzjnZEotYVFAPfMo" : {
            "buy" : 9314.59,
            "sell" : 17591.3965
status of Cybnate dual side PyBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep B954pkUEdkeT1G5Lq14Cisij5no3RVxHYe -A 20 | grep poloniex -A 2
        "1:NBTBTC:poloniex:LiquidBits" : {
            "buy" : 0.0,
            "sell" : 266.6667
status of Cybnate dual side PyBot at Bittrex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep B954pkUEdkeT1G5Lq14Cisij5no3RVxHYe -A 20 | grep bittrex -A 2
        "1:NBTBTC:bittrex:LiquidBits" : {
            "buy" : 1100.7203,
            "sell" : 0.0
status of NuLagoon dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep BTRnV9uLSPVJw4jn1JMV2Ki2cfFqPYip9o -A 1000 | grep poloniex -A 2 | tail -n 1  | awk -F':' ... and some more stuff
        "1:NBTBTC:poloniex:0.3.2a_1461291890115_23f52b" : {
            "buy" : 12000.0,
            "sell" : 1282.9032
--
        "2:NBTBTC:poloniex:0.3.2a_1461291890115_23f52b" : {
            "buy" : 1183.58,
            "sell" : 0.0
status of huafei sell side only NuBot at bter
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BRUuKfGur7CZSLy65gYUPJUQyQZeT1XQnD -A 2
        "BRUuKfGur7CZSLy65gYUPJUQyQZeT1XQnD" : {
            "buy" : 0.08,
            "sell" : 2025.0529
status of mOD single side NuBot at hitbtc:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep BETwD8nSjtj9ADSvej2na34xmsMYwPRymv -A 1000 | grep hitbtc | tail -n 1 | awk -F':' ...and some more stuff'
        "1:NBTBTC:hitbtc:0.4.1_1461097479835_167440" : {
            "buy" : 0.0,
            "sell" : 499.98
--
        "2:NBTBTC:hitbtc:0.4.1_1461097479835_167440" : {
            "buy" : 0.09,
            "sell" : 1499.936

[mhps]

I never got this:
In nu client, liquidity in vote page shows
type —buy sell
unkown 0 0
T1 60k 35k
T2 27k 33k
T3 14k 29k

alix shows
ask bid
70k 59k

Why don’t they agree?

[masterOfDisaster]

I have no explanation why the report from the Nu client for T1 is lower than the ALix report.

I could provide explanations for differences, but only, if it were the other way round:

• funds on T1 with a spread above what ALix reports (e.g. my Poloniex gateway)
• not properly reset liquidity broadcasts

But for ALix reporting bigger values than Nu client I have no idea.
Regarding liquidity situation:

Liquidity; ALix T1 + gateways (poloniex dual side, numerous sell side):

Sat Apr 23 21:00:04 UTC 2016

status of the gateways in total:
bid total 27030 USD, bid side ratio 40%
ask total 39902 USD, ask side ratio 59%

status of the ALP last 15 minutes:
bid total 58010 USD, bid side ratio 45%
ask total 69962 USD, ask side ratio 54%

status of the ALP last 4 hours:
bid total 55194 USD, bid side ratio 46%
ask total 63440 USD, ask side ratio 53%

status of the total liquidity; gateways and ALP (last 15 minutes):
bid total 85040 USD, bid side ratio 43%
ask total 109864 USD, ask side ratio 56%

status of the total liquidity; gateways and ALP (last 4 hours):
bid total 82224 USD, bid side ratio 44%
ask total 103342 USD, ask side ratio 55%

Gateway status at Poloniex (dual side), NuLagoon MLP at Poloniex and several sell side only exchanges

Sat Apr 23 21:00:01 UTC 2016
status of mOD dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BFGMPykfKxXZ1otrCZcsbnTwJjKHPP9dsP -A 2
        "BFGMPykfKxXZ1otrCZcsbnTwJjKHPP9dsP" : {
            "buy" : 16623.67,
            "sell" : 15287.0549
status of zoro dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BJs4YbtaqCmxeHLiR6zzjnZEotYVFAPfMo -A 2
        "BJs4YbtaqCmxeHLiR6zzjnZEotYVFAPfMo" : {
            "buy" : 9317.08,
            "sell" : 17591.3965
status of Cybnate dual side PyBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep B954pkUEdkeT1G5Lq14Cisij5no3RVxHYe -A 20 | grep poloniex -A 2
        "1:NBTBTC:poloniex:LiquidBits" : {
            "buy" : 0.0,
            "sell" : 2000.0
status of NuLagoon dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep BTRnV9uLSPVJw4jn1JMV2Ki2cfFqPYip9o -A 1000 | grep poloniex -A 2 | tail -n 1  | awk -F':' ... and some more stuff
        "1:NBTBTC:poloniex:0.3.2a_1461382012298_fbecd4" : {
            "buy" : 11267.0875,
            "sell" : 3247.4015
--
        "2:NBTBTC:poloniex:0.3.2a_1461382012298_fbecd4" : {
            "buy" : 0.75,
            "sell" : 0.0
status of mOD single side NuBot at hitbtc:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep BETwD8nSjtj9ADSvej2na34xmsMYwPRymv -A 200 | grep hitbtc | tail -n 1 | awk -F':' ...and some more stuff'
        "1:NBTBTC:hitbtc:0.4.1_1461097479835_167440" : {
            "buy" : 0.0,
            "sell" : 499.98
--
        "2:NBTBTC:hitbtc:0.4.1_1461097479835_167440" : {
            "buy" : 0.09,
            "sell" : 1499.936

[Cybnate]

Why don’t they agree?

Most obvious reason to me would be that some liquidity might be provided without using NuBot or PyBot. The client won’t register it, but Alix sees it in the exchange books.

[mhps]

Most obvious reason to me would be that some liquidity might be provided without using NuBot or PyBot. The client won’t register it, but Alix sees it in the exchange books.

If this is true then the difference is the real liquidity by the traders. We should use the ratio of the sell side of this difference and the buy side of the client data to calculate real sell pressure.

Here is the current result. It looks like the real buy/sell pressure (diff_buy/nud_sell and diff_sell/nud_buy) is rather small

Sun Apr 24 02:39:33 UTC 2016
Alix buy 62784.2554 Alix sell 43286.3168
 nud buy 63420.9684  nud sell 52499.5876
diff buy   -636.7130 Alix sell -9213.2708
diff_buy/nud_sell       -1.21% diff_sell/nud_buy     -14.53%

[Nagalim]

The 1.5% cutoff doesnt matter for the reported section of the front panel though. The front panel should be a straight readout from the client. @willy

[mhps]

The client won’t register it, but Alix sees it in the exchange books.

Upon more looks this isn’t that simple because often alix has less liquidity than the client, resulting a negative difference.

[Cybnate]

You might be right. We need to better understand what we are looking at on Alix. It fluctuates a lot which make it appear that it looks indeed at reported data from the client. That begs the question why the numbers are different from the T1 in the client.

[mhps]

Maybe when an ALP client reset the wall it pulls liquidity for a short moment and the exchange reports to alix that it is having less liquidity on the book. And at the same time the ALP server still reports the pulled liquidity, causing the nu client to still report it.

[willy]

The 1.5% cutoff doesnt matter for the reported section of the front panel though. The front panel should be a straight readout from the client. @willy

Reported liquidity comes straight from the client already.
My opinion on that is, that in a decentralized liquidity database, not everyone has the same data at the same time.

I checked my client values with those of ALix and those of ALix’ nud. All three were the same.
Maybe we all have the same set of nodes.

The liquidity reported is a 15 minute average value which, in my opinion, is necessary due to quite strong fluctuation of liquidity data.

[mhps]

The liquidity reported is a 15 minute average value which, in my opinion, is necessary due to quite strong fluctuation of liquidity data.

I wrote a script to sample nud liquidity every 10 sec and compare its 15min average with alix 15min average

Sun Apr 24 15:50:21 UTC 2016
Alix buy 57184.5561 Alix sell 68334.7440
nud  buy 61742.8000  nud sell 54697.8000
diff buy  -4558.2439 Alix sell 13636.9440

The difference is 10-20%. (in case you wonder, the buy and sell sides aren’t mistakenly swapped)

[willy]

every 10 sec

ALix script does it every minute.

How many connections does your client have?

[masterOfDisaster]

The rising BTC rate continues the pressure on the buy side:

Liquidity; ALix T1 + gateways (poloniex dual side, numerous sell side):

Sun Apr 24 20:52:48 UTC 2016

status of the gateways in total:
bid total 17928 USD, bid side ratio 26%
ask total 48857 USD, ask side ratio 73%

status of the ALP last 15 minutes:
bid total 60627 USD, bid side ratio 50%
ask total 59068 USD, ask side ratio 49%

status of the ALP last 4 hours:
bid total 57567 USD, bid side ratio 47%
ask total 62724 USD, ask side ratio 52%

status of the total liquidity; gateways and ALP (last 15 minutes):
bid total 78555 USD, bid side ratio 42%
ask total 107925 USD, ask side ratio 57%

status of the total liquidity; gateways and ALP (last 4 hours):
bid total 75495 USD, bid side ratio 40%
ask total 111581 USD, ask side ratio 59%

Gateway status at Poloniex (dual side), NuLagoon MLP at Poloniex and several sell side only exchanges

Sun Apr 24 20:52:50 UTC 2016
status of mOD dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BFGMPykfKxXZ1otrCZcsbnTwJjKHPP9dsP -A 2
        "BFGMPykfKxXZ1otrCZcsbnTwJjKHPP9dsP" : {
            "buy" : 16692.72,
            "sell" : 15287.0549
status of zoro dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BJs4YbtaqCmxeHLiR6zzjnZEotYVFAPfMo -A 2
        "BJs4YbtaqCmxeHLiR6zzjnZEotYVFAPfMo" : {
            "buy" : 0.99,
            "sell" : 27146.1363
status of Cybnate dual side PyBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep B954pkUEdkeT1G5Lq14Cisij5no3RVxHYe -A 20 | grep poloniex -A 2
        "1:NBTBTC:poloniex:LiquidBits" : {
            "buy" : 0.0,
            "sell" : 1600.0
status of Cybnate dual side PyBot at Bittrex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep B954pkUEdkeT1G5Lq14Cisij5no3RVxHYe -A 20 | grep bittrex -A 2
        "1:NBTBTC:bittrex:LiquidBits" : {
            "buy" : 1236.515,
            "sell" : 800.0
status of NuLagoon dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep BTRnV9uLSPVJw4jn1JMV2Ki2cfFqPYip9o -A 1000 | grep poloniex -A 2 | tail -n 1  | awk -F':' ... and some more stuff
        "1:NBTBTC:poloniex:0.3.2a_1461472134955_5dc4ed" : {
            "buy" : 10794.2259,
            "sell" : 4006.7679
--
        "2:NBTBTC:poloniex:0.3.2a_1461472134955_5dc4ed" : {
            "buy" : 15.71,
            "sell" : 0.0
status of huafei sell side only NuBot at bter
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BRUuKfGur7CZSLy65gYUPJUQyQZeT1XQnD -A 2
        "BRUuKfGur7CZSLy65gYUPJUQyQZeT1XQnD" : {
            "buy" : 0.08,
            "sell" : 2025.0529
status of mOD single side NuBot at hitbtc:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep BETwD8nSjtj9ADSvej2na34xmsMYwPRymv -A 1000 | grep hitbtc | tail -n 1 | awk -F':' ...and some more stuff'
        "1:NBTBTC:hitbtc:0.4.1_1461097479835_167440" : {
            "buy" : 0.0,
            "sell" : 499.98
--
        "2:NBTBTC:hitbtc:0.4.1_1461097479835_167440" : {
            "buy" : 0.09,
            "sell" : 1499.936

@zoro’s buy side is empty. Balancing necessary.

[mhps]

How many connections does your client have?

8 connections. but i don’t think it matters. if it takes more than 15min to propagate liquidity, we have trouble with nu network.

[willy]

My ALix nud has around 50 connections, so I suspect that the majority of liquidity providers are directly connected to it.
It might have a time plus. I’m not sure.