Current Liquidity

mhps 2016-04-20 04:51:08 UTC #1569

BTC price is near $450 resistance. I guess the liquidity will reverse soon as a lot of people sell their BTC and get into NBT.

zoro 2016-04-20 06:46:11 UTC #1570

I hope you are right since i am expecting btc passes the 500$ soon

masterOfDisaster 2016-04-21 14:20:21 UTC #1571

A bit late, but…

Liquidity; ALix T1 + gateways (poloniex dual side, numerous sell side):

Gateway status at Poloniex (dual side), NuLagoon MLP at Poloniex and several sell side only exchanges

Wed Apr 20 21:00:01 UTC 2016
status of mOD dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BFGMPykfKxXZ1otrCZcsbnTwJjKHPP9dsP -A 2
        "BFGMPykfKxXZ1otrCZcsbnTwJjKHPP9dsP" : {
            "buy" : 16002.06,
            "sell" : 15463.6728
status of zoro dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BJs4YbtaqCmxeHLiR6zzjnZEotYVFAPfMo -A 2
        "BJs4YbtaqCmxeHLiR6zzjnZEotYVFAPfMo" : {
            "buy" : 10645.15,
            "sell" : 16093.6465
status of Cybnate dual side PyBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep B954pkUEdkeT1G5Lq14Cisij5no3RVxHYe -A 20 | grep poloniex -A 2
        "1:NBTBTC:poloniex:LiquidBits" : {
            "buy" : 0.0,
            "sell" : 0.0
status of NuLagoon dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep BTRnV9uLSPVJw4jn1JMV2Ki2cfFqPYip9o -A 1000 | grep poloniex -A 2 | tail -n 1  | awk -F':' ... and some more stuff
        "1:NBTBTC:poloniex:0.3.2a_1461111645493_8f3d06" : {
            "buy" : 12000.0,
            "sell" : 152.4262
--
        "2:NBTBTC:poloniex:0.3.2a_1461111645493_8f3d06" : {
            "buy" : 2162.04,
            "sell" : 0.0
status of mOD single side NuBot at hitbtc:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep BETwD8nSjtj9ADSvej2na34xmsMYwPRymv -A 200 | grep hitbtc | tail -n 1 | awk -F':' ...and some more stuff'
        "1:NBTBTC:hitbtc:0.4.1_1461097479835_167440" : {
            "buy" : 0.0,
            "sell" : 499.98
--
        "2:NBTBTC:hitbtc:0.4.1_1461097479835_167440" : {
            "buy" : 0.09,
            "sell" : 1499.936

masterOfDisaster 2016-04-21 20:22:02 UTC #1572

Liquidity; ALix T1 + gateways (poloniex dual side, numerous sell side):

Gateway status at Poloniex (dual side), NuLagoon MLP at Poloniex and several sell side only exchanges

Thu Apr 21 20:21:31 UTC 2016
status of mOD dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BFGMPykfKxXZ1otrCZcsbnTwJjKHPP9dsP -A 2
        "BFGMPykfKxXZ1otrCZcsbnTwJjKHPP9dsP" : {
            "buy" : 6381.79,
            "sell" : 25287.0649
status of zoro dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BJs4YbtaqCmxeHLiR6zzjnZEotYVFAPfMo -A 2
        "BJs4YbtaqCmxeHLiR6zzjnZEotYVFAPfMo" : {
            "buy" : 10790.83,
            "sell" : 16093.6465
status of Cybnate dual side PyBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep B954pkUEdkeT1G5Lq14Cisij5no3RVxHYe -A 20 | grep poloniex -A 2
        "1:NBTBTC:poloniex:LiquidBits" : {
            "buy" : 0.0,
            "sell" : 133.3333
status of Cybnate dual side PyBot at Bittrex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep B954pkUEdkeT1G5Lq14Cisij5no3RVxHYe -A 20 | grep bittrex -A 2
        "1:NBTBTC:bittrex:LiquidBits" : {
            "buy" : 1038.0492,
            "sell" : 0.0
status of NuLagoon dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep BTRnV9uLSPVJw4jn1JMV2Ki2cfFqPYip9o -A 1000 | grep poloniex -A 2 | tail -n 1  | awk -F':' ... and some more stuff
        "1:NBTBTC:poloniex:0.3.2a_1461201767982_f450fc" : {
            "buy" : 12000.0,
            "sell" : 152.4262
--
        "2:NBTBTC:poloniex:0.3.2a_1461201767982_f450fc" : {
            "buy" : 2403.8,
            "sell" : 0.0
status of huafei sell side only NuBot at bter
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BRUuKfGur7CZSLy65gYUPJUQyQZeT1XQnD -A 2
        "BRUuKfGur7CZSLy65gYUPJUQyQZeT1XQnD" : {
            "buy" : 0.08,
            "sell" : 2025.0529
status of mOD single side NuBot at hitbtc:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep BETwD8nSjtj9ADSvej2na34xmsMYwPRymv -A 1000 | grep hitbtc | tail -n 1 | awk -F':' ...and some more stuff'
        "1:NBTBTC:hitbtc:0.4.1_1461097479835_167440" : {
            "buy" : 0.0,
            "sell" : 499.98
--
        "2:NBTBTC:hitbtc:0.4.1_1461097479835_167440" : {
            "buy" : 0.09,
            "sell" : 1499.936

Nagalim 2016-04-21 21:26:11 UTC #1573

@masterOfDisaster you should swap 10k nbt for $10k of btc from your gateway.

masterOfDisaster 2016-04-22 21:42:47 UTC #1574

The swap is partly complete - the BTC arrived, but the NBT withdrawal is stuck for hours. I raised a support request 14 hours ago…

Liquidity; ALix T1 + gateways (poloniex dual side, numerous sell side):

Gateway status at Poloniex (dual side), NuLagoon MLP at Poloniex and several sell side only exchanges

Fri Apr 22 21:40:35 UTC 2016
status of mOD dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BFGMPykfKxXZ1otrCZcsbnTwJjKHPP9dsP -A 2
        "BFGMPykfKxXZ1otrCZcsbnTwJjKHPP9dsP" : {
            "buy" : 16579.16,
            "sell" : 15287.0549
status of zoro dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BJs4YbtaqCmxeHLiR6zzjnZEotYVFAPfMo -A 2
        "BJs4YbtaqCmxeHLiR6zzjnZEotYVFAPfMo" : {
            "buy" : 9314.59,
            "sell" : 17591.3965
status of Cybnate dual side PyBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep B954pkUEdkeT1G5Lq14Cisij5no3RVxHYe -A 20 | grep poloniex -A 2
        "1:NBTBTC:poloniex:LiquidBits" : {
            "buy" : 0.0,
            "sell" : 266.6667
status of Cybnate dual side PyBot at Bittrex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep B954pkUEdkeT1G5Lq14Cisij5no3RVxHYe -A 20 | grep bittrex -A 2
        "1:NBTBTC:bittrex:LiquidBits" : {
            "buy" : 1100.7203,
            "sell" : 0.0
status of NuLagoon dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep BTRnV9uLSPVJw4jn1JMV2Ki2cfFqPYip9o -A 1000 | grep poloniex -A 2 | tail -n 1  | awk -F':' ... and some more stuff
        "1:NBTBTC:poloniex:0.3.2a_1461291890115_23f52b" : {
            "buy" : 12000.0,
            "sell" : 1282.9032
--
        "2:NBTBTC:poloniex:0.3.2a_1461291890115_23f52b" : {
            "buy" : 1183.58,
            "sell" : 0.0
status of huafei sell side only NuBot at bter
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BRUuKfGur7CZSLy65gYUPJUQyQZeT1XQnD -A 2
        "BRUuKfGur7CZSLy65gYUPJUQyQZeT1XQnD" : {
            "buy" : 0.08,
            "sell" : 2025.0529
status of mOD single side NuBot at hitbtc:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep BETwD8nSjtj9ADSvej2na34xmsMYwPRymv -A 1000 | grep hitbtc | tail -n 1 | awk -F':' ...and some more stuff'
        "1:NBTBTC:hitbtc:0.4.1_1461097479835_167440" : {
            "buy" : 0.0,
            "sell" : 499.98
--
        "2:NBTBTC:hitbtc:0.4.1_1461097479835_167440" : {
            "buy" : 0.09,
            "sell" : 1499.936

FLOT BTC Operations (buy side)

mhps 2016-04-23 12:27:00 UTC #1575

I never got this:
In nu client, liquidity in vote page shows
type —buy sell
unkown 0 0
T1 60k 35k
T2 27k 33k
T3 14k 29k

alix shows
ask bid
70k 59k

Why don’t they agree?

masterOfDisaster 2016-04-23 22:45:46 UTC #1576

I have no explanation why the report from the Nu client for T1 is lower than the ALix report.

I could provide explanations for differences, but only, if it were the other way round:

funds on T1 with a spread above what ALix reports (e.g. my Poloniex gateway)
not properly reset liquidity broadcasts

But for ALix reporting bigger values than Nu client I have no idea.
Regarding liquidity situation:

Liquidity; ALix T1 + gateways (poloniex dual side, numerous sell side):

Gateway status at Poloniex (dual side), NuLagoon MLP at Poloniex and several sell side only exchanges

Sat Apr 23 21:00:01 UTC 2016
status of mOD dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BFGMPykfKxXZ1otrCZcsbnTwJjKHPP9dsP -A 2
        "BFGMPykfKxXZ1otrCZcsbnTwJjKHPP9dsP" : {
            "buy" : 16623.67,
            "sell" : 15287.0549
status of zoro dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BJs4YbtaqCmxeHLiR6zzjnZEotYVFAPfMo -A 2
        "BJs4YbtaqCmxeHLiR6zzjnZEotYVFAPfMo" : {
            "buy" : 9317.08,
            "sell" : 17591.3965
status of Cybnate dual side PyBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep B954pkUEdkeT1G5Lq14Cisij5no3RVxHYe -A 20 | grep poloniex -A 2
        "1:NBTBTC:poloniex:LiquidBits" : {
            "buy" : 0.0,
            "sell" : 2000.0
status of NuLagoon dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep BTRnV9uLSPVJw4jn1JMV2Ki2cfFqPYip9o -A 1000 | grep poloniex -A 2 | tail -n 1  | awk -F':' ... and some more stuff
        "1:NBTBTC:poloniex:0.3.2a_1461382012298_fbecd4" : {
            "buy" : 11267.0875,
            "sell" : 3247.4015
--
        "2:NBTBTC:poloniex:0.3.2a_1461382012298_fbecd4" : {
            "buy" : 0.75,
            "sell" : 0.0
status of mOD single side NuBot at hitbtc:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep BETwD8nSjtj9ADSvej2na34xmsMYwPRymv -A 200 | grep hitbtc | tail -n 1 | awk -F':' ...and some more stuff'
        "1:NBTBTC:hitbtc:0.4.1_1461097479835_167440" : {
            "buy" : 0.0,
            "sell" : 499.98
--
        "2:NBTBTC:hitbtc:0.4.1_1461097479835_167440" : {
            "buy" : 0.09,
            "sell" : 1499.936

Cybnate 2016-04-24 00:17:54 UTC #1577

Most obvious reason to me would be that some liquidity might be provided without using NuBot or PyBot. The client won’t register it, but Alix sees it in the exchange books.

mhps 2016-04-24 02:42:23 UTC #1578

If this is true then the difference is the real liquidity by the traders. We should use the ratio of the sell side of this difference and the buy side of the client data to calculate real sell pressure.

Here is the current result. It looks like the real buy/sell pressure (diff_buy/nud_sell and diff_sell/nud_buy) is rather small

Sun Apr 24 02:39:33 UTC 2016
Alix buy 62784.2554 Alix sell 43286.3168
 nud buy 63420.9684  nud sell 52499.5876
diff buy   -636.7130 Alix sell -9213.2708
diff_buy/nud_sell       -1.21% diff_sell/nud_buy     -14.53%

Nagalim 2016-04-24 03:02:18 UTC #1579

The 1.5% cutoff doesnt matter for the reported section of the front panel though. The front panel should be a straight readout from the client. @willy

mhps 2016-04-24 03:10:54 UTC #1580

Upon more looks this isn’t that simple because often alix has less liquidity than the client, resulting a negative difference.

Cybnate 2016-04-24 03:14:14 UTC #1581

You might be right. We need to better understand what we are looking at on Alix. It fluctuates a lot which make it appear that it looks indeed at reported data from the client. That begs the question why the numbers are different from the T1 in the client.

mhps 2016-04-24 03:27:18 UTC #1582

Maybe when an ALP client reset the wall it pulls liquidity for a short moment and the exchange reports to alix that it is having less liquidity on the book. And at the same time the ALP server still reports the pulled liquidity, causing the nu client to still report it.

willy 2016-04-24 10:53:38 UTC #1583

Reported liquidity comes straight from the client already.
My opinion on that is, that in a decentralized liquidity database, not everyone has the same data at the same time.

I checked my client values with those of ALix and those of ALix’ nud. All three were the same.
Maybe we all have the same set of nodes.

The liquidity reported is a 15 minute average value which, in my opinion, is necessary due to quite strong fluctuation of liquidity data.

mhps 2016-04-24 15:53:59 UTC #1585

I wrote a script to sample nud liquidity every 10 sec and compare its 15min average with alix 15min average

Sun Apr 24 15:50:21 UTC 2016
Alix buy 57184.5561 Alix sell 68334.7440
nud  buy 61742.8000  nud sell 54697.8000
diff buy  -4558.2439 Alix sell 13636.9440

The difference is 10-20%. (in case you wonder, the buy and sell sides aren’t mistakenly swapped)

willy 2016-04-24 16:48:21 UTC #1586

ALix script does it every minute.

How many connections does your client have?

masterOfDisaster 2016-04-24 20:53:32 UTC #1587

The rising BTC rate continues the pressure on the buy side:

Liquidity; ALix T1 + gateways (poloniex dual side, numerous sell side):

Gateway status at Poloniex (dual side), NuLagoon MLP at Poloniex and several sell side only exchanges

Sun Apr 24 20:52:50 UTC 2016
status of mOD dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BFGMPykfKxXZ1otrCZcsbnTwJjKHPP9dsP -A 2
        "BFGMPykfKxXZ1otrCZcsbnTwJjKHPP9dsP" : {
            "buy" : 16692.72,
            "sell" : 15287.0549
status of zoro dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BJs4YbtaqCmxeHLiR6zzjnZEotYVFAPfMo -A 2
        "BJs4YbtaqCmxeHLiR6zzjnZEotYVFAPfMo" : {
            "buy" : 0.99,
            "sell" : 27146.1363
status of Cybnate dual side PyBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep B954pkUEdkeT1G5Lq14Cisij5no3RVxHYe -A 20 | grep poloniex -A 2
        "1:NBTBTC:poloniex:LiquidBits" : {
            "buy" : 0.0,
            "sell" : 1600.0
status of Cybnate dual side PyBot at Bittrex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep B954pkUEdkeT1G5Lq14Cisij5no3RVxHYe -A 20 | grep bittrex -A 2
        "1:NBTBTC:bittrex:LiquidBits" : {
            "buy" : 1236.515,
            "sell" : 800.0
status of NuLagoon dual side NuBot at Poloniex:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep BTRnV9uLSPVJw4jn1JMV2Ki2cfFqPYip9o -A 1000 | grep poloniex -A 2 | tail -n 1  | awk -F':' ... and some more stuff
        "1:NBTBTC:poloniex:0.3.2a_1461472134955_5dc4ed" : {
            "buy" : 10794.2259,
            "sell" : 4006.7679
--
        "2:NBTBTC:poloniex:0.3.2a_1461472134955_5dc4ed" : {
            "buy" : 15.71,
            "sell" : 0.0
status of huafei sell side only NuBot at bter
nud getliquidityinfo B | grep BRUuKfGur7CZSLy65gYUPJUQyQZeT1XQnD -A 2
        "BRUuKfGur7CZSLy65gYUPJUQyQZeT1XQnD" : {
            "buy" : 0.08,
            "sell" : 2025.0529
status of mOD single side NuBot at hitbtc:
nud getliquiditydetails B | grep BETwD8nSjtj9ADSvej2na34xmsMYwPRymv -A 1000 | grep hitbtc | tail -n 1 | awk -F':' ...and some more stuff'
        "1:NBTBTC:hitbtc:0.4.1_1461097479835_167440" : {
            "buy" : 0.0,
            "sell" : 499.98
--
        "2:NBTBTC:hitbtc:0.4.1_1461097479835_167440" : {
            "buy" : 0.09,
            "sell" : 1499.936

@zoro’s buy side is empty. Balancing necessary.

FLOT BTC Operations (buy side)

mhps 2016-04-25 00:29:15 UTC #1588

8 connections. but i don’t think it matters. if it takes more than 15min to propagate liquidity, we have trouble with nu network.

willy 2016-04-25 08:00:58 UTC #1589

My ALix nud has around 50 connections, so I suspect that the majority of liquidity providers are directly connected to it.
It might have a time plus. I’m not sure.