Supply, Reserves, and Equilibrium (superseded by automation)

[mhps]

Yes, i guess i thought they were already taken out of the getinfo reply, but i suppose they arent.

money supply the week before was 1290846.4629
money supply last week was 1292031.8213
currently it is 1297114.8532

The couple of k nbt are grants. The $60k+ parked are not counted in.

Even parked NBT are a (future) liability for Nu. Maybe they should no be excluded from the NBT in circulation

We are calculating buyback for the next week. ideally the calculator should ignore the nubits to be unparked next week. but currently assuming all will still be parked is more accurate.

[masterOfDisaster]

We are calculating buyback for the next week.

All I’m saying is that this can lead to oscillating effects, if very big amounts of NBT are parked with a buyback one week and a sale the other week (after the NBT unparked) - once this motion passes: [Passed] Standard and Core

After thinking twice I’m inclined to ignore the parked NBT and consider them as “in circulation” although they temporarily aren’t.
Parking is dealing with a short term lack of demand for NBT. That should never be able to lead to a NSR buyback, because those NBT are removed from the calculation for a short period of time.

[mhps]

That should never be able to lead to a NSR buyback, because those NBT are removed from the calculation for a short period of time.

That is guessing the intention of the shareholders. I am a bit worried that the calculator has this logic built-in. But I suppose you are right.

[cryptog]

I agree with you. I do not think that parked nubits should be regarded as a real supply decrease for very short periods. But we could remove from circulation say half of the total supply (350000) for 1y at 0.1% interest rate. Then we would really need to issue new nubits which would lead to plenty of buy backs. Also, that would trigger buyback immediately.
And overall that would be sensible.

[masterOfDisaster]

Can you find out for what total duration NBT are being parked?

[mhps]

v0.8.2 show totalparked nbt but do not use in calculation. add nud else case.

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Nushares buyback calculation as of Sat Apr 30 01:02:00 UTC 2016
Total NBT = 1297114.6332

Uncirculating Nubits

• FSRT multisig
  Balance of BhCnQrYrA5LZm871dtMQEXeU93gmqbhdrC is 0 NBT
• FSRT singlesig
  Balance of BFTnCyMX1nsTNp6X7Bcm1qVocvShdbwtMi is 151500 NBT
• JordanLee singlesig
  Balance of B5Zi5XJ1sgS6mWGu7bWJqGVnuXwiMXi7qj is 150000 NBT
• JordanLee singlesig from liquidity ops
  Balance of BT9AWq9r1i6kghZc6LtrvNb2wRFh7JLCdP is 36553.054 NBT
• FLOT 3-of-5 multisig
  Balance of BqyRzFtWXDmjxrYpyJD42MLE5xc8FrB4js is 219870.7656 NBT
• Total parked Nubits is 64483.2155. They are not used in circulating nubits calculation for buyback purposes.

Total NBT in circulation is 739190.813600 NBT.

Tier 4 Funds

• Tier 4 buy side funds controlled by FLOT
• FLOT 5-of-8 multisig old
  Balance of 3QDWJ2yqJ5iTUg6cSpAwxx95ba3NG97hzG is 0 BTC
• FLOT 5-of-8 multisig new
  Balance of 3HikFkS2Zinab1TJq7dqp6wSPyLu7i7bhe is 41.28271541 BTC
• Tier 4 buy side funds controlled by JordanLee 59.8 BTC
• NuSafe has $30000 for T4, but not included for buyback pool calculation.
• FLOT 3-of-5 multisig Peercoin
  Balance of pM68K72BBa2KX7Kj2qY5jgTB3AmCUKFQmV is 0 PPC

bitfinex BTC mid price is 454.985 USD
btc-e PPC average price is 0.000985 BTC

Tier 4 buy side funds total 101.082715 BTC, 0.000000 PPC, and $30000.000000, valued $75991.119271 (167.018955 BTC)

Of the 739190.813600 NBT in circulation, 15.00 percent (110878.622040 NBT) plus NuSafe are reserved and excluded from the share buyback calculation (309.633553 BTC).

167.018955 - 309.633553 = -142.614598 BTC in the share buyback pool.
The Standard is 5.00 percent of this, -7.1307 BTC (~ -3244.38 USD)

Buyback pool is not positive. There will be no NSR buyback or PPC reserve filling next week.

[mhps]

Can you find out for what total duration NBT are being parked?

It must be possible. I will be in transit in the next 1.5 days.

[Nagalim]

To trigger a buyback then a dilution, the parked nbt would need to change by 700k to force the standard to go from +2.5k to -2.5k (5k/0.05/0.15=666k). Also, the park rates go down as the standard approaches +2.5k (at least in theory), so this attacker is parking for smaller and smaller rewards. Their best attack would be to wait for Nu to suffer, then park a bunch all at once at a high rate. However, this is precisely what we want them to do! To wait and park when we’re in trouble, they have to buy a bunch of nubits while our economy is going into a recession, thereby helping us out. Well that’s not really an attacker at all!

This is basically the buy slow sell fast (bssf) attack from my perspective. There are more efficient ways of manipulating Nu, namely to target the ALPs.

[JordanLee]

@mhps I now hold a total of 126.04 shareholder BTC. FLOT may request a transfer if they wish.

[mhps]

v 0.8.3

Nushares buyback calculation as of Fri May 6 23:44:37 UTC 2016
blocks":863102
Total NBT = 1317832.0683

Uncirculating Nubits

• FSRT multisig
  Balance of BhCnQrYrA5LZm871dtMQEXeU93gmqbhdrC is 0 NBT
• FSRT singlesig
  Balance of BFTnCyMX1nsTNp6X7Bcm1qVocvShdbwtMi is 151500 NBT
• JordanLee singlesig
  Balance of B5Zi5XJ1sgS6mWGu7bWJqGVnuXwiMXi7qj is 150000 NBT
• JordanLee singlesig from liquidity ops
  Balance of BT9AWq9r1i6kghZc6LtrvNb2wRFh7JLCdP is 31553.044 NBT
• FLOT 3-of-5 multisig
  Balance of BqyRzFtWXDmjxrYpyJD42MLE5xc8FrB4js is 219870.7656 NBT
• Total parked Nubits is 153010.125. They are not used in circulating nubits calculation for buyback purposes.

Total NBT in circulation is 764908.258700 NBT.

Tier 4 Funds

Tier 4 buy side funds controlled by FLOT

• FLOT 5-of-8 multisig old
  Balance of 3QDWJ2yqJ5iTUg6cSpAwxx95ba3NG97hzG is 0 BTC
• FLOT 5-of-8 multisig new
  Balance of 3HikFkS2Zinab1TJq7dqp6wSPyLu7i7bhe is 52.21291541 BTC
• Tier 4 buy side funds controlled by JordanLee 126.04 BTC
• NuSafe has $30000 for T4, but not included for buyback pool calculation.
• FLOT 3-of-5 multisig Peercoin
  Balance of pM68K72BBa2KX7Kj2qY5jgTB3AmCUKFQmV is 0 PPC

bitfinex BTC mid price is 461.345 USD
btc-e PPC average price is 0.000925 BTC

Tier 4 buy side funds 178.252915 BTC, 0.000000 PPC, and $30000.000000, valued $112236.091260 (243.280173 BTC)

Of the 764908.258700 NBT in circulation, 15.00 percent (114736.238805 NBT) plus NuSafe are reserved and excluded from the share buyback calculation (313.726688 BTC).

243.280173 - 313.726688 = -70.446515 BTC in the share buyback pool.
The Standard is 5.00 percent of this, -3.5223 BTC (~ -1625.01 USD)

Buyback pool is not positive. There will be no NSR buyback or PPC reserve filling next week.

[mhps]

Total parked Nubits is 153010.125

So far there is no information on the distribution of park period for the parked fund.

[Nagalim]

Core bitcoin reserve contains 178.252915 BTC valued at $82,236.09

764,908.26 NBT in circulation - $30,000 in NuSafe = 734,908.26 outstanding NBT
15% of this is 110,236.24 NBT

82,236.09 - 110,236.24 = -$28,000.15
5% of this is the Standard:
-$1,400.01
As this is under $2,500 magnitude, there will be no NSR action this week

2/3 of the standard is -$933.33
As this is under $1,000 magnitude, there will be no PPC action this week.

[mhps]

764,908.26 NBT in circulation - $30,000 in NuSafe = 734,908.26 outstanding NBT15% of this is 110,236.24 NBT

Will change to this after [Passed] Outstanding Nubits passes. currently the calculator gives a more conservative result (circulating - 15% - nusafe )

[Nagalim]

Sure, it’s the same either way (no market action). I just wanted to post the example for the future. Specifically the peercoin stuff.

Besides, are we counting sharedays or not with motions? There’s no protocol change needed.

[JordanLee]

@mhps as a result of these liquidity operations, I now have 26.04 shareholder BTC in my possession.

[mhps]

This calculation is done without any change from [Passed] Standard and Core which passed in the last week. The numbers presented in this calculation will be used to discuss standard-and-core implementation.

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v0.8.4

Nushares buyback calculation as of Sat May 14 00:32:12 UTC 2016
blocks":873809
Total NBT = 1317838.267

Uncirculating Nubits

• FSRT multisig
  Balance of BhCnQrYrA5LZm871dtMQEXeU93gmqbhdrC is 0 NBT
• FSRT singlesig
  Balance of BFTnCyMX1nsTNp6X7Bcm1qVocvShdbwtMi is 151500 NBT
• JordanLee singlesig
  Balance of B5Zi5XJ1sgS6mWGu7bWJqGVnuXwiMXi7qj is 150000 NBT
• JordanLee singlesig from liquidity ops
  Balance of BT9AWq9r1i6kghZc6LtrvNb2wRFh7JLCdP is 54452.482 NBT
• FLOT 3-of-5 multisig
  Balance of BqyRzFtWXDmjxrYpyJD42MLE5xc8FrB4js is 219870.7656 NBT
• Total parked Nubits is 158395.125. They are not used in circulating nubits calculation for buyback purposes.

Total NBT in circulation is 742015.019400 NBT.

Tier 4 Funds

Tier 4 buy side funds controlled by FLOT

• FLOT 5-of-8 multisig old
  Balance of 3QDWJ2yqJ5iTUg6cSpAwxx95ba3NG97hzG is 0 BTC
• FLOT 5-of-8 multisig new
  Balance of 3HikFkS2Zinab1TJq7dqp6wSPyLu7i7bhe is 105.70346791 BTC
• Tier 4 buy side funds controlled by JordanLee 26.04 BTC
• NuSafe has $30000 for T4, but not included for buyback pool calculation.
• FLOT 3-of-5 multisig Peercoin
  Balance of pM68K72BBa2KX7Kj2qY5jgTB3AmCUKFQmV is 0 PPC

bitfinex BTC mid price is 456.16 USD
btc-e PPC average price is 0.000905 BTC

Tier 4 buy side funds 131.743468 BTC, 0.000000 PPC, and $30000.000000, valued $90096.100322 (197.509866 BTC)

Of the 742015.019400 NBT in circulation, 15.00 percent (111302.252910 NBT) plus NuSafe are reserved and excluded from the share buyback calculation (309.764672 BTC).

197.509866 - 309.764672 = -112.254807 BTC in the share buyback pool.
The Standard is 5.00 percent of this, -5.6127 BTC (~ -2560.31 USD)

Buyback pool is not positive. There will be no NSR buyback or PPC reserve filling next week.

[mhps]

The following would be how buyback/refill calculated according to [Passed] Standard and Core Please check.

Circulating NuBits (CN) = 742015.019400 NBT
BTC target (BTCTR) = 15%
reserve target = CN x BTCTR = 111302.25291 NBT
reserve velocity (BTCV) = 5%
The standard (ST) = reserve velocity x (T4BTC - reserve target) = 0.05 x (T4BTC - 0.15 x CN)
= 0.05 x (131.743468 BTC x 456.16 USD/USNBT - 0.15 x 742015.019400 NBT)
= -2560.31

ST < -2500, sell |ST| amount ($2560.31) of NSR

T4 reserve in PPC (T4PPC) = 0
PPC target (PPCTR) = 5%
PPC velocity (PPCV) = 10%
PPC threshold (PPCTH) = $1000

auxiliary reserve flow (F) = (PPCTR / BTCTR) x (PPCV / BTCV) = (5%/15%)x(10%/5%) = 2/3

PPCTH x F = $1000 x (2/3) = $666.67

Since ST(-2560.31) < -(PPCTH x F), sell (F x ST = -1706.83) amount of PPC (oops we don’t have any PPC)

Peercoin standard (PPCST) = PPCV x (T4PPC - PPCTR x CN) = 10% x (0 - 5% x 742015.019400) = -3710.075097

PPCST is not > PPCTH($1000), there is no selling PPCST amount of PPC

[Nagalim]

Two things: firstly, the outstanding nubits motion passed and will keep us under nsr dilutions this week.

The standard is -$2560.31+(0.15×.05×30k)=-$2335.31
No dilutions will occur this week.

Secondly, you did the ppc stuff wrong. Ill explain when i have some spare time.

Crap, I messed up the motion. It’s supposed to be PPCTH/F not PPCTH*F. The idea is that you take the standard and multiply it by the flow. Then you compare that to the threshold and if it’s bigger you take that modified amount to market. As is it doesn’t really make sense.

[Passed] Standard and Core

During the weekly core calculation, an auxiliary dynamic reserve is given the standard times the flow for that reserve, subject to the reserve threshold

We should be bringing $1556.87 worth of ppc to market if we had any. This is over the $1k threshold.

[mhps]

the outstanding nubits motion passed

when? in [Passed] Outstanding Nubits it still says voting. the explorer has been down.

I messed up the motion. It’s supposed to be PPCTH/F not PPCTH*F

No one checked when voting.
Will be traveling. Get back to this later.

[Nagalim]

https://alix.coinerella.com/panel/#

Are you counting share days? I’m not a fan of counting SDD for motions. Anyway, alix doesnt really say if a motion has passed or not, so honestly i dunno.

Is it just me or is it a real issue that we can’t figure out if a motion has passed or not?