[Discussion] mini NuSafe

[mhps]

BTC prices at different exchanges or in different USD tokens

A bit off topic. Shouldn t we put a part of Nu s btc into NuSafe? Btc is dropping.

BTC crashed to $570 from ~800 a few days ago. It did make me wish we hedged for BTC price drop with our, albeit few, BTC reserve.

What do people think about light weight distributed mini-nuSafe that are held by custodians in USD-tokens on a selection of exchanges? The idea is

1. Custodian receives BTC from FLOT in exchange account
2. Cutodian trades the fund to USD and leaves it there
3. When needed custodian trades USD back to BTC and send to whereever FLOT instructs.
4. Custodian povides trade history

The difference with a real nusafe is that for the mini ones custodians can put collaterals depending on the risk. Nu used to entrust $20k to custodians w/o collaterals. The fund can be recalled quickly because they are on-line.

The exchanges that I trust for 10BTC/account for 6 months include Poloniex, BTC-e, Bitfinex. Exchange default risk is reduced by spreading the fund.

I throw out this idea now because I think Nu should explore ways to hedge btc volatility, and mini-nusafe doesn’t need software development to try. Starting with 2 btc / custodian now seems OK for me.

[Cybnate]

The question is whether the exchange default risk is higher than the BTC volatility risk over a period of say 3 months. Using Tether instead of USD is adding even more risk in the form of a failing company.
It is hard to predict what is best. BTC is back again at $685. Let the ones with crystal ball speak up I’m on the fence.

I’m fine to be a custodian for up to 10k USD if there is wide support for this in the community. I would prefer to have it parked on real USD pairs though, e.g. on Bitfinex or BTC-e.

[cryptog]

I support this idea of mini NuSafe to protect even our meager fund.

[mhps]

The question is whether the exchange default risk is higher than the BTC volatility risk over a period of say 3 months.

One reason if not the biggest reason that the buyback was supported was that a big amount of btc means big btc volatility risk. So btc risk, or the inability to mitigate btc risk indirectly caused peg break in 7 months.

It is hard to predict what is best. BTC is back again at $685. Let the ones with crystal ball speak up I’m on the fence.

It’s not hard to find the best when you don’t have a crystal ball. the best is to diversify and to mitigate risk. not doing anything led to sub-optimal decisions that eventually killed the peg.

[crypto_coiner]

The difference with a real nusafe is that for the mini ones custodians can put collaterals depending on the risk

The expected value of total funds at risks would be reduced?

[Cybnate]

the best is to diversify and to mitigate risk. not doing anything led to sub-optimal decisions that eventually killed the peg.

True, so I would support a mini NuSafe, but only for about 50% of the total BTC amount Nu still has.